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As Paul Weller wrote.. CLASSIC

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:58 am
by Von Boy
You've gone and got yourself in trouble,
No you want me to help you out.

These days I find that I can't be bothered,
These days I find that its all too much,
To pick up a gun and shoot a stranger,
But I've got no choice so here I come - war games.

I'm up on the hills, playing little boy soldiers,
Reconnaissance duty up at 5:30.
Shoot shoot shoot and kill the natives,
You're one of us and we love you for that.

Think of honour, Queen and country,
You're a blessed son of the British Empire,
God's on our side and so is Washington.
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First part of Little boy soldiers, The Jam, Setting Sons, 1979...

But I really like the last verses...
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These days I find that I can't be bothered,
To argue with or well, what's the point?
Better to take your shots and drop down dead,
then they send you home in a pine overcoat

With a letter to your mum!

Saying find enclosed one son - one medal and a note -
to say he won.
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Re: Are British Soldiers spoilt

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:56 am
by spider
I'm a bit late here but it's been said above that..

"I say Falklands, you'd probably come back with, there's oil there. Well no one knew that until the late 90's. It was a defence of a British overseas territory. Simple as that. Now there is oil, what a bonus."

That statement is 100% not true.

I remember the issue of "the very high probability of large oil reserves in the South Atlantic" was part of the debate in 1982 regarding whether the UK should re-take the Falklands.

Re: As Paul Weller wrote.. CLASSIC

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:23 am
by bamboo
Strange. You start a thread asking a fairly reasonable question, though not many have actually answered your question.

But then you insert a post, basically rejoicing in the deaths of soldiers. Nothing to do with your initial post.

So ask you, what would your 'friend's' Father have thought about the quality of his son's friends? I wonder did you ever make your thoughts known to him about the deaths of his friends? Or, like your country as a whole, were you too cowardly?

Here's another 'classic', this time from Isabel Vincent;

Hitler's Silent Partners: Swiss Banks, Nazi Gold, and the Pursuit of Justice.

It's available at all good book shops and online.

Re: Are British Soldiers spoilt

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:43 am
by bamboo
Seeing as you gave up on the actual thread about the Falklands, it's odd that you cherrypick a comment from a thread about 'are British Soldiers spoilt'. Show the OP the decency of at least answering his question first.

Anyway, to answer your question;

How exactly is my statement 100% not true?

Prior to 1998, it was only suspected by geologists etc, that there could be oil and gas in that area, it was not known.
In 1998 it was finally discovered but deemed not to be economically viable to drill for.



In 2007, Argentina withdrew from a deal, which allowed it to explore for oil around the F.I.s.
Worst decision they ever made, since invading in 1982. As, in 2010, huge oil supplies were found and more have been found since.

How's your job hunting going Spider? You should join the Armed forces, as according to some on here, they're spoilt.
Or, you could get on a boat, or plane and nip down to the Falklands. No unemployment there.

Re: As Paul Weller wrote.. CLASSIC

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:58 am
by Von Boy
hey hang on... i just feel Mr Wellers comments in that song are spot on... the soldiers die the politicians get what they want and Liz Windsor is none the wiser... I have always believed that to fight for your flag/country is better than to fight for the King/queen...


Re: Are British Soldiers spoilt

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:22 am
by spider
"Falklands. No unemployment there"

Lots of UK Taxpayer subsidised jobs I guess.

Re: Are British Soldiers spoilt

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am
by bamboo
Nope.

Re: Are British Soldiers spoilt

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:40 am
by spider
The UK Armed Forces based there foraging off the land are they, killing the odd sheep and living off nuts and berries then?

Re: Are British Soldiers spoilt

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:09 pm
by Gentleman
Bet there's a booming high street in the Falklands, they had a woman running the local Falklands gift shop as talking head on the news during bathe referendum and the surprise was that she didn't want the troops to leave.

Considering the amount of government subsisdy she is getting for her business roughly ?77 million per year in defence costs everyone should move to the Falklands and start a business based on providing mars bars and wank mags to military personel.l

Von Boy

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:49 pm
by David Johnson
Von Boy makes a very good point. Based as he is apparently in Switzerland, I have asked him if the Swiss Guard could "toughen up" the namby pamby British soldiers based on their endless campaign record in the toughest of campaigns in the world.



Next week how to grow the British economy by making more cuckoo clocks.