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I don't have a weak stomach, I just find films involving people being tortured, extremely physiologically abused, mutilated, put through extreme trauma and distress, very hard to watch and they leave me feeling troubled. The three films I've mentioned there are like that and I wouldn't watch them again. I have heard about, although not seen, films like Saw and Hostel (and all the sequels made of both). These films sound just like what I've described and I wouldn't watch them if you paid me.

You accuse me of constantly talking about race issues when most of the discussion on this over the last few days has been started by you.


Oh sorry I didnt know this was the Max Tranmere forum. So I shouldnt start threads now is that it?

A black man cant have a say or start a conversation on here is that it? I dont understand why i cant start as many damn threads as i please?

Iz it coz i iz black Max? Izzit? Why cant I start threads???

At least I talk about movies or is it because its a movie with a black man in it? I tell you what? You stop harping on about muslims and black folks and ill stop playing the race card

Deal or no deal? i can play this game forever. I have for over 40 years already.

Oh and Max, i dont want yo uto see Django because if Robocop troubled you then Django is gonna mess your head up proper

"A black man cant have a say or start a conversation on here is that it? I dont understand why i cant start as many damn threads as i please?"

What the hell are you on about?

"You stop harping on about muslims and black folks and ill stop playing the race card"

As I've said before I go on about muslims as I feel it's justified, but I've also written other threads about nothing of the sort, I don't go on about black people. To repeat what I said a few days ago: my issue is with ideaologies and thinking, not about how someone looks.

You are the one obsessed with race, you even managed to start a sub-thread - on the thread I started about glamour models being spolit - which concerned race (?). You also started this thread. My comments here are about whether the film is any good, whether the excessive violence makes it unpleasant to watch, and how some films disturb me. You then moved it on to race again. You seem to be the one obsessed with race matters in recent days.

And by the way, if you think I'm going over the top by saying Robocop is too much, have a watch of the uncut version - the one I saw in the cinema years ago (assuming you can get hold of it still). I didn't intentionally go to see what was later referred to as 'the uncut version', I just went to see the film as it came. It is really really bad. When it was released on video they took several minutes out and it still warranted a cert.18. You probably just think this is a cop movie with a bit of violence and swearing and is no more heavy than most cert.18 films. You would be wrong. Robocop is one of the grimmest films ever.

go see it max just dont wear a white hood!!

QT's films are very hit and miss for me. Love Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill 1. KB2 starts great then peters out to a weak ending. Reservoir Dogs is in my list of most overrated films of all time, style but little substance. Not sure about the rest of the UK but in Carlisle Django has been selling out....will have a look next week.

Maybe I'm the black version of you Max. Perish the thought

Every time the black thing comes up Im gonna play the race card from now on. Some of you go on like youre so hard done by. Well others can bang that drum just as loud too.

I htink I was accused a whil eback of being some kind of masked caped crusader....I really like that idea. Maybe I can be Super Black Anti Racist Man or Troll Killer!...Hmm I'll need to work on that one but its a start

I am with Max on this one. Perhaps not on all those particular films, but I also find violent films and also horror films often too hard to watch.

The thing is - when I watch films I really get into them, in the sense of losing myself in them. And then the excitement is often too close to the bone.

I don't think this is just a personal quirk, but probably related to me being an Aspie.

I thought it was brilliant and stylish and funny. The use of language, however inappropraite it may be, was really really clever.

Kermode and Mayo said it was too long. I didn't notice because I paid a massive amount for the VIP seats at the Vue cinema. Still worth it.

Tarantino can do wrong but this is probably the best film of the year (so far).

I am getting nearer to seeing the film. I might go this week.

Saw it. Can`t see what the fuss is about. Movie is violent but no more so
than some of Sam Peckinpah`s Westerns and a damned sight less bloody
than the great "The Wild Bunch".
Rather fun having a black hero I thought, though for most of the movie its
a buddy-buddy act with Christoph Waltz`s travelling dentist-bounty hunter.
In the USA various comments have been made about the "Ku Klux Klan"
guys in hoods which are historical tripe as the Klan did not start until near
the end of the Civil War and the movie is set before that time. But I have
no doubt lynchings of negroes went on during that period and at no time
do the hooded guys call themselves "klansmen". In fact the most
historically instructive part of the movie for me was the plantation scenes
with Don Johnson looking every inch an ole style Southern gentleman -
goatee beard, drawling accent, charming manner and racist down to his
boots. The way he appears to run his plantation with pliant mannered house
slaves while the lash applied by thugs in the cotton fields keeps the rest of
his workers in order was true to many such places before the Civil War.
One should also not overlook Samuel L. Jackson`s character as the old
negro retainer who has become more white than his masters and does not
want the old order to change.