"Obams wins!"

[Arginald Valleywater]

So you are all thick enough to think Obi Wank is a great leader? Seriously he is a choc ice par excellence. His "poor" Democrat wife spends hundreds of thousands on clothes from the most expensive couture houses.....the Obama's would suit Nu Labor well and fit into the Islington aristocracy. Sorry lads I'll stick to my opinion, unless SS Gruppenfuhrer DJ is about then he will spout his usual bollocks....back to more important matters i.e. Champions League.

[David Johnson]

"So you are all thick enough to think Obi Wank is a great leader?"

Of course no-one is stating that in this thread.

"His "poor" Democrat wife spends hundreds of thousands on clothes from the most expensive couture houses..."

Well we can't all make our life's work in a Housing Association despising the customers we are supposed to be helping, Argie.

"SS Gruppenfuhrer DJ is about then he will spout his usual bollocks...."

And your view is based on what? Fuck all as usual.

And you defend your views with what? Fuck all as usual.

And you challenge my views and point out where I am wrong with what? Fuck all as usual.

So what are you worth, Argie? Fuck all as usual.

[Ken Shabby]

Really? Someone had the audacity 'Challenge' your views, Dave? Are you serious? You're scaring us!

All that money, all that effort - and America's still in the same situation as they were before?! Another victory for democracy! Honestly, people who vote for someone solely because they're same skin colour as them (despite actually disagreeing with them on all the vital wedge issues) or the celebrity obsessed (who vote the way some ass waving pop singer tweets them to) are rendering the democratic process futile. They're turning their vote into a fashion accessory. It's getting ridiculous! The whole thing should be about issues, surely!

And I'm dreading 4 more years of Barry's speeches. The pompous rhetoric, self reverential tone and those damned unnecessary....



....pauses!

And where are the satirists? Where have they been hiding the last 4 years? The same place they're going to be hiding during the next four fucking years - because they're just too scared to poke fun at Obama. Come on, every US President has the piss taken out of them - It comes with the job (Bush junior, Clinton, Bush Senior, Reagan, etc.... sometimes it got really vicious!), but this bloke's immune somehow?!

All I can say is, I'm glad they have a 2 term limit in the states, or else we'd never be rid of him. No matter how he fucks up, they'd just keep voting him back in again, and again, and again!

One last thing, Dave, I wonder what Obama was promising Putin's number 2 (once he got that pesky election thing out of the way) during that open-mike blunder a few months ago? I bet that wasn't fuck all as usual....

[Arginald Valleywater]

Wise words Mr Shabby. Some of us can see through the marketing, image makers etc to see a lame duck of a leader who has done little for the man or woman in the street. After his second term I see a new UN Governor General, an ideal role for weak politicians with no interest other than seeing their name in the media and making money.

[David Johnson]

"And where are the satirists? Where have they been hiding the last 4 years? The same place they're going to be hiding during the next four fucking years - because they're just too scared to poke fun at Obama."

You obviously have never watched Fox News.

Nor have you watched any of the two billions worth of campaigning in which the participants slag each other off endlessly and take the piss. And maybe you were asleep during the campaign to prove that Obama was not American, but some Commie Muslim sent by the US's enemies?

"Honestly, people who vote for someone solely because they're same skin colour as them (despite actually disagreeing with them on all the vital wedge issues)"

Got any evidence to back that up? Or are you clairvoyant?

"Wise words, Ken" from Argie.

I can see why someone like you might think these wise words, Argie. !wink!

[David Johnson]

"Really? Someone had the audacity 'Challenge' your views, Dave? Are you serious? You're scaring us!"

You think Argie is "challenging" my views? Really?

Argie's challenge is a bit like a third former at the back of the bike sheds. "Obama is a useless leader". Why is that Argie? "His wife spends loads of money on fashion clothes". Killer point, Argie.

If you look at the link and various posts, I provided to the last time Argie banged on about this,

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=260889&t=260889

it showed that Argie has no idea whatsoever of what he is talking about.

I am delighted when someone challenges me and provides info that I never knew or shows me that I am wrong. Argie is not one of those people.

[Lizard]

He's an affable guy, but that's where it ends. The truth is he was re-elected because of the black and hispanic vote, end of story. Romney was outflanked by the Democrats, you can see the luvvies rich beyond thier wildest dreams (Springsteen, Oprah, Washington et al) queing up to support him, what for? they don't need Obamacare, they don't need money, what they need is to be adored by the working class, even though they wouldn't be seen dead in the same room, they need to be seen to be on the side of the poor and the opressed. The popular vote was within a whisker, just over a million, so in the future the democrats only need about a 3-4% swing every 4 years and they are in power for good. The way the Demographic population is growing in the States, it's unlikely a white middle aged rebublican will ever see the oval office again.

[David Johnson]

"Romney was outflanked by the Democrats, you can see the luvvies rich beyond thier wildest dreams (Springsteen, Oprah, Washington et al) queing up to support him, what for? they don't need Obamacare, they don't need money,"

So you completely discount the concept of rich people wanting to help people who are considerably less well-off than themselves and need universal healthcare?

[andy at handiwork]

'....it's unlikely a white middle aged rebublican will ever see the oval office again.'

We can but hope.

[Arginald Valleywater]

Chelsea Clinton will be America's first female president. Solid multi millionaire Democrat.......