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Re: Argie
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:50 pm
by Essex Lad
And almost fully supported by your beloved (parliamentary) Labour party with a few notable exceptions...
Re: Posh boys get booed
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:00 pm
by frankthring
Serves them right ! They are both tossers, David. Something, I am
happy to say, on which you and me can agree for a change.
Essex lad
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:08 pm
by David Johnson
"And almost fully supported by your beloved (parliamentary) Labour party with a few notable exceptions..."
Your grasp of facts is appalling.
On the Iraq vote only 15 Tories defied their leadership by voting against the Labour government.
139 Labour MPs voted for a rebel motion opposing the Labour government's stance.
Re: Essex lad
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:14 pm
by bernard72
And your twisting of facts is amazing.
How many Labour MP's voted for. How many Tories voted for.
Bernard
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:26 pm
by David Johnson
If you are that interested, look it up yourself.
The point is that a large number of Labour MPs supported the rebel vote, not "almost fully supported by your beloved (parliamentary) Labour party with a few notable exceptions..." as stated by Essex Lad.
You cant possibly describe it as "almost fully supported".
Re: Von Boy
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:16 am
by Von Boy
BUT what about the 60% saved??? That money can be used for soldiers bullets, nurses pay rises, meals for the elderly... etc. All money that would have to come from more tax paid by the hard working people....
Re: Von Boy
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:13 pm
by David Johnson
"BUT what about the 60% saved??? That money can be used for soldiers bullets, nurses pay rises, meals for the elderly... etc. All money that would have to come from more tax paid by the hard working people...."
Given the minimal fraud figures, according to the government's own figures, I would be surprised if the overall process in terms of ATOS charges, software devt., appeals, tribunals, re-tests, further tribunals v. benefits saved, even came out as a positive number!