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Re: Condascending wanker!
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:37 am
by frankthring
Though you lay the sarcasm on rather thick in your opening post, DAVID,
you are nonetheless correct ! We will, I fear, be dragged into another
war against "evil" or "crazy" Middle Easteners when, in reality, the
reasons are much more murky. Is it the USA pulling the strings ? Is it
the Jews ? Is it a secret cabal of powerful men ? Who knows. Who cares.
British boys will die.
I hope it does not come to this but things are looking bad. They will get
worse I daresay.
Iran is NOT Iraq. They are NOT Arabs (but Persians) and a people with a
culture and history longer than the UK. They have a whopping great army
and lots of nasty firepower.
To give Iran a hard time over atomic power (even a bomb) is more than
hypocritical when Israel has had a weapon for several years. The Iranian
rulers may hate the jews but they are not so stupid as to invite the
obvious retaliation that would hit their major cities like Tehran if they
whacked Israel.
Its time for real diplomacy and sensible settlements of the dispute. This
is difficult but not impossible.
Frank
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:43 am
by David Johnson
I wonder what the reaction would be in the UK, if a foreign power was blowing up our nuclear scientists as regularly as has been happening in Iran?
I agree. Let's hope diplomacy wins through.
Re: Allies to bring much needed democracy to Iran
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:53 am
by MilkandCookies
To be fair the UK has not threatened to wipe another country off the face of the earth with its nuclear weapons, if a country had threatened us in that way I would expect MI6 to be blowing up their scientists.
I seemto remember we did quite a lot of that type of thing to the Soviets and vice versa.
Re: Allies to bring much needed democracy to Iran
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:25 pm
by Gusset Sniffer
To be fair Iran has never said they would!
They said that the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time. But anonymous wire service translators rendered Khomeini as saying that Israel ?must be wiped off the face of the map"
More bullshit from the media who never check their sources. Maybe they don't want to correct their mistake? !whistle!
Re: Allies to bring much needed democracy to Iran
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:02 pm
by MilkandCookies
I presume you speak Farsi then? If not you are just taking someone elses word for it just the same, the intent is pretty clear. Suppose its bullshit that they finance and control Hamas and Hezbollah too, or that they execute children and gays, its a horrible and bellicose regime by any standards and makes no bones about the fact it wants to dominate its neighbours and attack Israel (it already is via terrorists) I certainly will not be sleeping easier if they get nukes. Sad as the Iranian people are by all accounts lovely.
Re: Allies to bring much needed democracy to Iran
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:03 pm
by David Johnson
Fair comment.
I guess this invasion fetish as part of the war on terrorism is largely counter-productive.
The reason that I put the links in the opening post was the situation in Afghanistan and Iraq seems to be deteriorating quite a bit now the troops have either left or in reduced numbers and in Libya there is all sorts of stuff coming out of the woodwork.
If I was a despot in the Middle East, the lessons of the last 10 years are clear:
1. Get a nuclear bomb asap if you want to remain in power and carry out any foreign policy ambitions.
2. Put your head above the parapet, particularly if you have oil, is asking for trouble.
3. Learn from the example of North Korea.
There has to be a better way.
Re: Allies to bring much needed democracy to Iran
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:38 pm
by Gusset Sniffer
You must have read that in the Jew controlled media? Must be true then! Was is a source close to the Daily Mail? Or has the BBC learned something today?
Don't tell me they have got weapons of mass destruction? !doh! Lets fall for the same old guff time after time? Lets bomb the bastards eh? All those little children you talk about with such care eh?
Who are these terrorists attacking Israel? Don't you mean the terrorists attacking Iran? Planting car bombs and murdering innocent scientists and bystanders? But that's okay if we're doing it? Right? !swear! We are freedom fighters but they are terrorists if they do the same?
Re: Allies to bring much needed democracy to Iran
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:26 pm
by MilkandCookies
The 'Jew controlled media' err yeah I must have.