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Sam Slater
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:10 pm
by David Johnson
"Now back to my question: why are all your posts about political point scoring?"
A quick use of the Search function would show that this statement is incorrect.
Even if your statement was correct, which it isn't, so what?
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:01 pm
by Sam Slater
Figure of speech, David. You know that.
And 'so what?', you ask: Because I'm interested.
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:10 pm
by number 6
Was the Jeremy Bamber thread political point scoring? I guess a lot of my posts are political,probably because i care about the state of the country. I piss a lot of people off too,so what? Thats life.
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:13 pm
by andy at handiwork
Lets face it, there's a pressing need these days for political point scoring, as HM Opposition dont seem to be doing much of it. Keep up the good work.
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:58 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]I guess a lot of my posts are political,probably because i care about the state of the country.[/quote]
I'm sure we all care about the country, number 6, but this thread was about praising the quality of BBC programming, not their political stance.
Still, I have my answer and that's fair enough for me. Cheers.
Re: Praise the Beeb
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:06 am
by nikonman
I fully agree with David there have been some excellent programmmes on the BBC since the start of the year.
The Dickens programmes have been great as was Sherlock
I am surprised that no one has mentioned Borgen made by the same people who made the Killing and shown on BBC4 on Saturdays.
I expect that most of you will already know that the current real life Danish PM is Neil Kinnock's daughter in law.
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:03 am
by David Johnson
"I'm sure we all care about the country, number 6, but this thread was about praising the quality of BBC programming, not their political stance".
As the person who started the thread, Number 6's post is perfectly valid. I don't agree with his viewpoint but in a post praising the BBC, it seems appropriate that someone should express that view, if they feel the need.
As for your question "why are all your posts about political point scoring?"
I would have thought that the answer was self-evident. Number 6 is interested in politics and cares enough about the abomination of the Lansley NHS bill and the Duncan Smith Welfare Bill, together with the increase in unemployment to comment on them.
As for your comment "I'm sure we all care about the country," it is worth pointing out there are those like yourself, Mr Slater, that fervently supported the Lib Dems prior to the election with copious posts to that effect, but have been completely and utterly unable to express a single line of criticism of that party for overturning so many of their principles in supporting the most ruthless, right wing Tory party seen in a generation.
Cheers
D
Re: Praise the Beeb
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:21 am
by Gusset Sniffer
Interesting programme about Putin starts tonight for 4 weeks BBC2 9pm.
I hope I'm wrong but the Beeb usually likes to rubbish the russkies.!boring! Programme timed to be shown in the run up to the Russian presidential elections.
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:39 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]As the person who started the thread, Number 6's post is perfectly valid. I don't agree with his viewpoint but in a post praising the BBC, it seems appropriate that someone should express that view, if they feel the need.[/quote]
It was by the bye. The quality of the BBCs programming is incidental to their current political stance. I rolled my eyes at it and questioned why he always brings politics into everything in an off-hand, casual manner to which you took as an attempted statement of fact....well, you didn't really take it that way but saw an opportunity to pull me up on something so your take of literalism was actually feigned. Agreed? Good. Let's move on...
[quote]Number 6 is interested in politics and cares enough about the abomination of the Lansley NHS bill and the Duncan Smith Welfare Bill, together with the increase in unemployment to comment on them.[/quote]
I wasn't talking specifics and I've already accepted -and thanked him for- his answer.
[quote]As for your comment "I'm sure we all care about the country," it is worth pointing out there are those like yourself, Mr Slater, that fervently supported the Lib Dems prior to the election with copious posts to that effect, but have been completely and utterly unable to express a single line of criticism of that party for overturning so many of their principles in supporting the most ruthless, right wing Tory party seen in a generation.[/quote]
And so we come to the real reason why you've involved yourself in a simple question I gave to number 6. Are you trying to imply that people who didn't vote Labour in the last election don't care about the country? You last paragraph seems to imply this. And as for being critical of the Lib Dems' backing down on many of their manifesto: I expected this in a coalition where they are the party where they aren't the dominant partner. If, at the next election I didn't like how things turned out I'll change my vote.
Your question about why I haven't bothered to criticise the Lib Dems, or Tory policies is as self evident an answer as you said number 6's answer would be to my question. I just rarely talk politics. Don't believe me? Go check. Apart from when election times come around I bother myself with other things. I'd say this is what most people do......unless you're interested in politics of course. I've found it both irritating and amusing in equal measure at the amount of energy you've taken over the last 2 years to goad me into explaining my vote, or arguing politics with you. One the one hand I'm flattered you think so much of my opinions and reasoning but on the other the repetitive nature of it all is a rather tedious.
You started off our exchange with a 'so what?'. Why, you wanted to know, did I care enough to question number 6. I answered. Now let me turn that question on you. Why do you care why I cared enough to question him? One reason could be that you care deeply about number 6 and feel he should never be questioned in such an abusing, unfair, hard-line manner. Nah.......can't be that because when Beeston Boy was continually saying he wished number 6 to die only I out of the whole forum bothered to say that was out of order. No - you cared this time because it was me. Someone who dared to vote differently than dear David Johnson. I'm a blasphemer and deserve your ridicule.
Still, you and number 6 should be happy. You turned your innocent, interesting thread into a politicized, boring argument. It's almost like you both planned it! !laugh!
Re: Sam Slater
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:17 pm
by David Johnson
"I rolled my eyes at it and questioned why he always brings politics into everything in an off-hand, casual manner "
We have already established and I thought agreed that this view is incorrect. Stop repeating the same mistake. The rest of your paragraph of which the above sentence is part is third rate, pseudo-psychological crap.
"I wasn't talking specifics and I've already accepted -and thanked him for- his answer".
You are intelligent enough to know that " political point scoring" is a term which has a derogatory connotation so in asking the question "why are all your posts about political point scoring?" you were having a dig. Then for whatever reason you backed off.
"Your question about why I haven't bothered to criticise the Lib Dems, or Tory policies is as self evident an answer as you said number 6's answer would be to my question. I just rarely talk politics. Don't believe me? Go check. Apart from when election times come around I bother myself with other things."
"I just rarely talk politics" Yeah, particularly when the leader of the political party you extolled prior to the election and defended tirelessly duing the coalition negotiations, stiffs you and highlights the sheer naivety of the views you trumpeted prior to the election.