Oxford street stabbing

[Sam Slater]

[quote]It may not be justice but by hell its what we need here....[/quote]

So, more killings and less justice is what we need? Like Saudi Arabia, you mean?

Marvellous.

[RoddersUK]

The death penalty has never been in place to be a deterrent. It was always state revenge, and those are the words of Albert Pierpoint from his autobiography.

[mrmcfister]

The victim was no angel and his killer too probably offers little to society other than seeing how much he can get.Hopefully it will be an xbox and tv and a locked small room for very many years.

[randyandy]

According to the Tories it's to appoint that well known expert on knife crime, who just happens to be a 'celebrity,' Brooke Kinsella (now MBE for her work)

She tweeted recently to ask why the courts aren't giving the sentences they should be.

I replied with ask Dave, Teresa and Ken the next time she pops over for a chat.

She didn't reply, so guessing she must have been busy learning a script, shopping or doing one of the many other things she tweets about.

Brooke was appointed because she and her family sadly became yet another victim of knife crime, not because she was an expert on it and to be honest the report she did on it was nothing more than what had been said already.

[one eyed jack]

Speaking to some young men in Tottenham recently who were weary of loved ones and best friends getting stabbed put this to me:

The people that stab/ rob/ carjack/ kill your kids/ shoot you in the face dont think about jail sentences or even regret their actions because THEY DONT CARE!.

My view is, if they dont care or value life, then they really dont deserve to live

[one eyed jack]

If they dont value life or care about spending a life in prison then maybe a deterrent would be to harvest their organs while they are alive and give it to those who want to live.

Maybe that might buck their ideas up a bit

[RoddersUK]

That's novel Terry. There would be a constant supply of organs for transplanting that's for sure, and, society would be a better place without these bastards. O'ill give it foive.

[william]

Would answer that organ donation quandry aswell - harvest the organs from the bastards and use them for the good of the people give em something back. Hey look you killed that poor guy but look we used your organs to help save the life of 17 people.... retribution and revenge.

It was in my posting - Im sorry this thinking that we are better than those that kill by not killing ? Sorry it doesnt work out - we kill legally through war - we kill animals for food so why should we not kill someone who murders ?

I would have no issue myself flicking the switch or pulling the stop on the trap door or injecting the fuckers. Im sorry but this world is getting too easy on the criminals and were getting worse for it. Lack of discipline ? For fuck sake the only discipline dished out seemes to be in pornoland with whips and chains.

If I had my way Id have execution brought back and not in some closed out non public place - Id make sure it was in the open and that it was as nasty as possible - you think its okay to stick a knife in someone in the middle of oxford street ? Yep well its okay to harvest your organs while you are awake and then kill you.... Punished and killed. I dont want you to be in broadmore or some other prison - working your way to try and get out. This cunt that killed three soldiers for a payroll and then he is now being allowed out of prison for compassion - like get a grip. Did he show compassion for the ones that he killed. He forced a guy to drive a landrover up a road with two dead people in the back dripping blood out then killed the driver and you think that we should be showing compassion on this person. The only person that should show compassion to this person is the devil when he tears the skin off of him in hell.

Im sorry been around too long and seeing what is out there and the way that they get off -you honestly think that these guys show remorse or such ? They are counting the days till they get out. They still have a life. Nope no life you take a life you kill then you are killed yourself. simple nothing to it and not much thought needs to be given.

[BeestonBoy]

Hey

Highly amussing that so many people seem pro death penalty when the Bamber thread is still being so hotly dissputed.

Again might as well give my opinion on this.

I am and always have been anti capital punishment but at the same time have been well aware that if any one was to harm any one I held dear,I would want revenge. And you see for me that about sums up. The whole thing. It is not a tool for deterrent it is simply a means of revenge.

OK I am sure I have stated this argument on this forum before but for the noobs new goes.

The State of New York technically still has the death penalty but has not put any one to death since 1976. Violent crime rates in New York have dropped steadily since the early 90s. Many New Yorkers will in fact take great pleasure informing you that many former 'Hoods' are now (statistically at least) safer places to be than many inner City estates in London.

This has been achieved by better policing,better education,more social projects and increased public spending. The New York budget is fucked...but lets not dwell on that here.

Where as in States such as Texas and Florida which are famously fond of the Death Penalty,murder and violent crime continue to spiral out of control. Continued harsh sentancing,more executions and initiatives such as the 'Three strike rule' have had little or no effect on crime figures.

So what does this tell you? For me it proves that the reasons behind Murder and violent crime are mainly social problems and that, as the gulf between the rich and poor widens no ammount of State deterrent will do any thing to stop that.

I also firmly believe that incidents like the one in Oxford Street will continue to happen with more frenquency untill the joke that is immagration in this Country is sorted out once and for all.

Cheers

BB

[Sam Slater]

You'd happily take a life for a life. Fine.

If some paedo raped your 8 year old daughter would you rape their 8 year old daughter in revenge?

Like for like..........an eye for an eye......paedos would think twice about raping little girls if their own little girl was gonna get raped too! No? That manly, no-nonsense, take-no-shit approach doesn't look so cool now, does it?