As a former soldier I empathise with these young men completey. My son has just returned from the fucking place.
I also understand that the problem is down to arsehole poiticians and always has been.
Soldiers don't kill soldiers, fucking politicians do and that is FACT. !!
We need out of the shithole and fucking soon.
Our War BBC3 Tues 9pm
Why isn't this poinr of view reported more often ?
Surely it's not uncommon and is easy to relate to ?
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David Johnson
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Jonone
"She said: "He wanted to go into the army and it was a great place for him and he enjoyed it, but when you know they are going to be sent away and fighting with real bullets, then you hate it."
It's completely understandable. But I think this view isn't common in the sense that most families of soldiers killed in combat tend to talk not only about their devastation, obviously, but also about their sons understanding the risks involved. The vast majority of families realise their children could be killed, when they sign up.
Much of the criticism that you do hear is about the politicians who make the decision to go to war and the funding of the armed forces in terms of equipment.
Cheers
D
It's completely understandable. But I think this view isn't common in the sense that most families of soldiers killed in combat tend to talk not only about their devastation, obviously, but also about their sons understanding the risks involved. The vast majority of families realise their children could be killed, when they sign up.
Much of the criticism that you do hear is about the politicians who make the decision to go to war and the funding of the armed forces in terms of equipment.
Cheers
D
Re: Jonone
There was a news item in the last couple of days about the number of Army personnel expressing an interest in redundancy
Maybe the timing is good for some, the package very attractive, and maybe for some the penny has dropped that they're not feeling the 'love' from the organisation (and by this I mean principled, caring behaviours towards it's employees) because there is no love there ?
Maybe the timing is good for some, the package very attractive, and maybe for some the penny has dropped that they're not feeling the 'love' from the organisation (and by this I mean principled, caring behaviours towards it's employees) because there is no love there ?
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David Johnson
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Re: Jonone
Good point. I suspect that being in the Armed Services is not the attractive option that it once was.
For example I think the First Sea Lord came out and said recently the operation against Libya was unsustainable for longer than another 3 monthsand the deputy in charge of the Airforce said something similar.
So with funding for the Armed Forces being slashed, no more army adverts on the tele about ski mountaineering in Norway, an onslaught on public sector pensions and ongoing wars on more than one front, one of them Afghanistan having gone on for the same length of time almost as the two world wars, then I can see a lot of people thinking that it might be a good time to go for redundancy.
But whether this equates to people actively "hating the army" that's a dfferent question. Maybe they just see the writing on the wall and think it is time to cash in, while it is still worth it. After all, it ain't a good time to be looking for a job in civvy street.
Cheers
D
For example I think the First Sea Lord came out and said recently the operation against Libya was unsustainable for longer than another 3 monthsand the deputy in charge of the Airforce said something similar.
So with funding for the Armed Forces being slashed, no more army adverts on the tele about ski mountaineering in Norway, an onslaught on public sector pensions and ongoing wars on more than one front, one of them Afghanistan having gone on for the same length of time almost as the two world wars, then I can see a lot of people thinking that it might be a good time to go for redundancy.
But whether this equates to people actively "hating the army" that's a dfferent question. Maybe they just see the writing on the wall and think it is time to cash in, while it is still worth it. After all, it ain't a good time to be looking for a job in civvy street.
Cheers
D