Mr Thring, what bever happened to Guy Fawkes night? When I was young it was a major event when you'd have your own display. I used to love binding up 3 penny bangers into a bundle of 12, joining the fuses up and then blowing things up! Good, wholesome fun! Kids are just not creative these days!
They used to look like this and if you dismantled them to extract the gunpowder, they were wrapped in Chinese newspapers!
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These days Guy Fawkes seems to have been taken over by Halloween, which involves hoodies demanding money with menaces from terrified oap's.
St Patrick's Day..
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max_tranmere wrote:
> Interesting comments there.
>
> Christmas is, of course, largely a commerical thing too and we
> are bombared by information about thngs you can buy your loved
> ones for ages in advance of it just so companies can make money
> - but at least Christmas WAS celebrated by huge numbers of
> people years ago when it was not a commercial event and in
> communites that had very little money.
Though that father Xmas wears a red coat nowadays is due to Coca Cola.
> Interesting comments there.
>
> Christmas is, of course, largely a commerical thing too and we
> are bombared by information about thngs you can buy your loved
> ones for ages in advance of it just so companies can make money
> - but at least Christmas WAS celebrated by huge numbers of
> people years ago when it was not a commercial event and in
> communites that had very little money.
Though that father Xmas wears a red coat nowadays is due to Coca Cola.
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Your totally correct.
My GGgrandfather moved to Dublin from the UK in the mid 1800's, my father and my brothers and sisters were all born in the UK but we spent much of our pre teens in Ireland and I have little or no memory of any St Patricks Day celebrations.
There is no real importance to this day apart from people who wish to celebrate their Irish'ness, previously it was no more than 'another' catholic Saints day, but your right to say its now been hijacked by companies who are able to make money from the name and celebrations. The idea of the parades etc only came from the Irish and their decendants who no longer live in the country but wish they did (I dont think so) and therefore use it as a rememberance day, and a good excuse for a total piss up.
I have seen this day celebrated in Sydney, New York and Birmingham - which I think has the largest parade etc in the UK.
My GGgrandfather moved to Dublin from the UK in the mid 1800's, my father and my brothers and sisters were all born in the UK but we spent much of our pre teens in Ireland and I have little or no memory of any St Patricks Day celebrations.
There is no real importance to this day apart from people who wish to celebrate their Irish'ness, previously it was no more than 'another' catholic Saints day, but your right to say its now been hijacked by companies who are able to make money from the name and celebrations. The idea of the parades etc only came from the Irish and their decendants who no longer live in the country but wish they did (I dont think so) and therefore use it as a rememberance day, and a good excuse for a total piss up.
I have seen this day celebrated in Sydney, New York and Birmingham - which I think has the largest parade etc in the UK.
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That's interesting. In America they really go for this in a big way, the river in Chicago is apparantly dyed green for the event each year (according to a number of films I've seen).
Last night me and some friends hit an Irish pub in London and had a good time. A band was playing some cover versions of songs by the likes of the Wolfe Tones, a number of which mention the IRA, we also got covers of songs by Oasis, Queen and others. (I've always found it ironic that such 'pro Irish songs' by bands like the Wolfe Tones are all banned on Irish radio stations and condemned by polticians in Dublin yet these radical cover bands think they are speaking for the Irish when they sing them).
At closing time last night the Police were called as a couple of people decided to have a punch up outside - something quite common with Irish pubs at colsing time - but all in all a fun night!
Last night me and some friends hit an Irish pub in London and had a good time. A band was playing some cover versions of songs by the likes of the Wolfe Tones, a number of which mention the IRA, we also got covers of songs by Oasis, Queen and others. (I've always found it ironic that such 'pro Irish songs' by bands like the Wolfe Tones are all banned on Irish radio stations and condemned by polticians in Dublin yet these radical cover bands think they are speaking for the Irish when they sing them).
At closing time last night the Police were called as a couple of people decided to have a punch up outside - something quite common with Irish pubs at colsing time - but all in all a fun night!
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Re: St Patrick's Day..
beutelwolf wrote:
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> Though that father Xmas wears a red coat nowadays is due to
> Coca Cola.
That's a common misconception.
The original illustrations (by Thomas Nast) that accompanied Clement Clarke Moore's 1822 poem "T'was the night before Christmas" had Father Christmas in red. I'm not sure when Coca Cola was founded, but the earliest Coca Cola ads with a red "Santa" date back to 1931. While Coca Cola make a great play about how they influenced the world into accepting "their" vision of Santa, the original idea of a red Santa pre-dates their ad campaign by over 100 years!
>
> Though that father Xmas wears a red coat nowadays is due to
> Coca Cola.
That's a common misconception.
The original illustrations (by Thomas Nast) that accompanied Clement Clarke Moore's 1822 poem "T'was the night before Christmas" had Father Christmas in red. I'm not sure when Coca Cola was founded, but the earliest Coca Cola ads with a red "Santa" date back to 1931. While Coca Cola make a great play about how they influenced the world into accepting "their" vision of Santa, the original idea of a red Santa pre-dates their ad campaign by over 100 years!
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