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Re: Jim

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:18 pm
by RoddersUK
Nuffink wrong with shootin n floggin as long as the right people get shot and flogged.
Unfortunately it seems more wrong people are shot by the fucking fuzz.


Re: Jim

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:17 am
by jimslip
You're right that a Tory introduced the idea, but she still would have done so had New Labour won the last election and I think they would have run with the ball.

Nutball Tories scare me alot less the the New Labour PC brigade, they are far more creepy, because they cannot be even handed. They would have allowed complete freedom for minorities porn and crushed hetero porn.

You can see the evidence of the remnants of New Labour's double standards at your local clap clinic, where for gays they'll have leaflets advising how to shag everything in sight and remain safe. Heteros have no pamphlets to read other than basic facts about the various STD's.

In other words political correctness deemed that you MUST NOT chastise gays if they lead a promiscouous life style, but you can chastise straights!

This was the insanity of New Labour.


Re: Jim

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:32 am
by David Johnson
"You're right that a Tory introduced the idea, but she still would have done so had New Labour won the last election and I think they would have run with the ball.

I agree with this. Kiddies watching porn would tend to produce a similar reaction whoever was in power. Having said that Labour would have come up with the same scenario as the Tories are i.e. the idea proposed is impractical.

"They would have allowed complete freedom for minorities porn and crushed hetero porn."

In the 13 years of Labour government I cannot recall any attempts to "crush hetero porn". Have you got examples? If you are referring to the law on porno including extreme violence, I wasnt aware that it was discriminatory in terms of homo or heterosexual as you suggest in your post.

In short I dont think the Tory governments of Thatcher, Major and Cameron were/are any less hostile to porn than the Labour government were. I think in many ways, Thatcher, Mary Whitehouse and her lot were more anti than any subsequent government.

Cheers
D

Re: Jim

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:16 am
by jimslip
I'm kind of talking about a Labour government that had won the last election with a large majority. An example of the creeping PC tendency that NL encouraged is how Ofcom conducts the censoring of encrypted adult channels. I know a couple of years ago, the gay channel were permitted to show erect dicks whereas a hetero channel would get a ?25,000 fine show showing a hard dick.

Is this right or fair? Political correctness is a culture that is nurtured by a government rather than a measure that is introduced. I think NL could not have resisted the opportunity to collect data on what people viewed and maybe used it against them in the future.

In other words they wouldn't have actually cared about the porn people were viewing, but the power that they could wield on those that had been viewing.


Re: Say no to censorship

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:29 am
by number 6
There are more important things going on in the country than the right to see hardcore porn chaps. I know we are all fans,but on a list of priorities(health service,education,poverty) porn comes a distant bottom. As for new labour being this sneaking,snooping, outlawing govt,it was labour who made hardcore porn legal to buy in shops.

up to a point Lord Copper

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:09 am
by andy at handiwork
There are indeed more important issues requiring attention in this country at present. If only the government would concentrate on them and stop raising unnecessary diversions like this. Besides, its isn't merely about the right to access porn, as just down the road there could be restrictions on other things we will be allowed to view, such as wikileaks and evidence of US pilots killing British soldiers in criminally negligent 'friendly fire' incidents for example.

It was under Labour that the porn we have now was legalised, but it was done through gritted teeth and in the face of a lot of opposition from within the government. European rights laws and the realisation that juries would no longer regard mainstream adult material as obscene made even the puritans of NL accept the inevitable.

Re: Internet Porn Block Not Possible Say ISP's

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:47 am
by one eyed jack
There are more important things going on in the country than the right to see hardcore porn chaps.

Yes there are.

But this being a porn forum and all


Re: Jim

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:18 pm
by David Johnson
"I'm kind of talking about a Labour government that had won the last election with a large majority."

"I think NL could not have resisted the opportunity to collect data on what people viewed and maybe used it against them in the future."

We can all hypothesise about what might happen, if etc etc. One of your comments, Jim when I say that the Lib Dem Con government should do more to tax the bankers, is "well what did New Labour do in 13 years?" And it is a very fair comment. Labour did bugger all.

I think we need to judge governments on what they actually did.

In 13 years of Labour government I still dont see anything in their actions which would lead me to support your statement that "they would have crushed hetero porn".

Even the Labour Home Secretary's household were avid fans!

Cheers
D

Re: Internet Porn Block Not Possible Say ISP's

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:26 am
by Jacques
IWF, OpenDNS ..... it's already being done.

This is just 'career politics' from a complete nobber.