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Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:59 pm
by crofter
She was never Heavyweight Champion Liz. but Cruiserweight Champ (check your nude midget boxing yearbook 1963 - page 37). As she is only 3' 7" she found it impossible to put on the extra 10 stone at such short notice - though I do believe she is slowly getting there now ...
It is an interesting theory this - do you think if it was not for slavery *they* would still be living in the dark ages then??
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:12 pm
by Sam Slater
Slavery?
Isn't Obama's mother's side white European ancestry and his father's side Kenyan? I know his Father met his mother as a foreign student in Hawaii and his grandparents on that side were all resident Kenyans.
Were they slaves in Kenya? I don't know for sure, but they weren't westernised blacks who's ancestors came over as slaves if that's what you were getting at.
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:09 pm
by Steve R
Look at the fact of a black President, rather than at the particular individual who happens to be playing the part.
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:27 pm
by Sam Slater
But your point was that thanks to slavery Obama is president.
How?
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:31 pm
by Steve R
No, it wasn't.
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:37 pm
by Sam Slater
Your title: "Obama ? Our part in his success"
Your basic question: "What is our (white people's) contribution to his (Obama's) success?"
The answer you claimed was correct: "Slavery"
My question you've failed to answer: "How?"
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:58 pm
by Steve R
Part of my point concerned "a black President" (identity irrelevant).
Other parts:
Muhammad Ali
Jack Johnson
Jim Hines
Sammy Davis
Jimi Hendrix
The Blues
and many, many more.
The title was just a title.
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:06 pm
by Sam Slater
I still don't know how slavery got a black man into the White House when that black man (he's not black really but for argument's sake...) or his ancestors were involved with slavery.
If slavery never happened, a Kenyan man could still have fallen in love with an American woman, had a son and that son become President.
Please elucidate.
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:10 pm
by Steve R
Otis Redding
B B King
Albert King
Gladys Knight
George Foreman
Gregory Hines
and so on.
Re: Obama - Our Part In His Success
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:19 pm
by Sam Slater
Nope....it's still not clear to me how slavery got a black man into the White House. Not when that black man had no roots in slavery.
You seem to know more about all this than me so I'm looking forward to you enlightening me on it. We're never to old to learn new things are we?