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Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:52 am
by Deano!
I heard this subject being discussed on BBC World a few days ago and the figure of $777 trillion compensation was mentioned.
At first I thought it was some sort of miss-placed joke, but the interviewer mentioned that unimaginable amount and pointed out that as soon as people hear talk like that they'll just tune out. I wonder at the basic intelligence of people who come up with this crap.
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:57 am
by The Grand Wazoo
Think its not really been thought out properly. Most countries in the world have done bad things in the past but you can't go and blame the general public for it. Most of our ancestors in the UK were shat on big time by the so called gentry. Slavery was abolished 200 hundred years ago through campaigning for human rights etc. Surely the apology was done then? I know the merchants were given money as compensation which should have gone to the actual slaves and their families to rebuild their lives but theres not much you can do about that after 200 years. And I can't see how they can make a case for it now. Especially with bastards like Mugarbee still around.
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:20 am
by c.j.jaxxon
Yep!
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:30 am
by c.j.jaxxon
Yep! I agree! I'd like to clarify by adding that really we blacks over think that it's just a plain waste of time because first we no it WON'T COME and second if whites did apologize it won't change the condition black people are in and it wouldn't mean nothing. The thing about family is when we were in slavery and after it in a sense that's all we had to cling to seeing we were in a strange land and being forced to do the master's bidding.
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:38 am
by c.j.jaxxon
I see your point but I don't think you realize what that means to us as blacks because believe me even in Hollywood hey, it's ran by white men. The producers, the camera men, the writers and maybe some agents. Blacks are STILL acting in demeaning roles most times just to stay in the acting business. Thankfully it's changing (we have black writers and producers now) but not fast enough and really it's going backwards again.
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:14 am
by middle_aged_dutchman
Just out of curiosity: does anyone here know if one of his ancestors was a slave trader or a slave keeper?
The Dutch kept slaves and trafficked in slaves too, even longer than the English (the Netherlands abolished slavery only in 1863), but I have no idea if any ancestor of mine was involved in the slave trade. From what I know about my family I don't think so, but it is not wholly impossible.
I bet that very few people know what their ancestors did two hundred years ago. So why apologise for things they may not have been guilty of?
And if we are sure one of them was guilty? Even if one of my ancestors kept slaves, it's not my fault. Why do I have to apologise?
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:53 am
by Sam Slater
Who's 'we' c.j.?
YOU were never a slave, nor is any European today still alive that was part of that slave trade.
There's no one alive left who can apologise, and no one left alive to apologise to!
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:14 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]Blacks are STILL acting in demeaning roles most times just to stay in the acting business.[/quote]
Lots of the blockbuster movies I've seen have the Black guy as the hero more often than not. Or the moralist at least.
I'd actually say that the bad guy is usually white with a British, Russian, or an other European accent. In fact when films start -based in America- and I hear a European accent I know for a fact he'll turn out to be some sly, egotistical, immoral psychopath! !laugh!
For the most part anyway.
Not seen Morgan Freeman, Danny Glover, Whoopi Goldberg, Whitney Houston, Samuel L Jackson, Eddie Murphy, Richard Prior, Will Smith, Wesley Snipes, Chris Tucker or Denzel Washington play many demeaning roles.
The films with Snoop, Ice T, 50cent are kinda demeaning if they just convey a murder culture, but if you're going to make a film based around 'the hood' lifestyle then you can't really fill the film with white gangsta's !laugh! Kinda takes away the credibility of the film!
I think you're wrong on this.
Re: Slavery: 200yrs on.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:36 pm
by c.j.jaxxon
I meant "we" as blacks in past tence. When I say "we" I think you're intelligent enough to the difference between "we" as blacks now and "we" as blacks then.