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Re: Nick Cohen
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:23 am
by mart
M_A_D said "It is an interesting fact, however, that George Owell, praised to the skies in this article, was a Trotskyite himself."
I don't think you're correct . Orwell fought with the POUM who were Trotskyites and found himself far more in sympathy with them than with the Communists who were run by the Kremlin. But I don't think he would have described himself as a Trotskyite. Even so he was on the hit list after the Communists hounded the POUM, falsely accusing them of collaborating with Franco.
Mart
Re: Nick Cohen
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:30 am
by middle_aged_dutchman
My dear Dibble,
I am a journalist, writing mainly about the Dutch tax system.
My wife is an independent consultant.
My father was a non-commissioned officer in the Dutch army.
My grandfather was a non-commissioned officer in the Dutch navy.
My other grandfather was a market gardener. His wife, my granny, owned a grocery shop.
My father-in-law owned a plumber's workshop.
A middle-class family, if ever there was one.
What exactly did I and my family do that you hate us so much? Alright, my granny went bankrupt. So she was a loser, while you are a winner. But apart from that: what did we do wrong?
M_A_D: proud to be middle-class
Re: Nick Cohen
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:10 am
by zoomraker
Yes I have to admit I am a university type and a proffesional but don't know if I qualify as middle class as I am stuck in shared accomodation at the age of 35 and can't see a way out.
My attack was not against the middle class or educated people just against the "left wing pseudo intellectuals" who claim to have an egalitarian agenda but in practise actually despise the working class and the section of the working class they despise the most is the skilled and aspirational working class.
They seem to have the attitude that poor people should be happy living on shitty councill estates as long as they are given benefit or that it is ok to flood the country with cheap foreign labour at the expense of those already here.
Re: Nick Cohen
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:57 am
by middle_aged_dutchman
Dibble, what are you waiting for? This is your chance to explain to the world why middle-class people are Untermenschen!