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True and I think that the White Poppy ought to be worn on an International Peace Day and not on Rememberance Day.

personally I think people should be free to wear what they like, isn't that what a lot of the people who died fought for - freedom

I don't follow your logic...if there is any.

Mart

Keith Rasputin wrote:'I repeat my point that students are probably not as politically aware and certainly not as left-wing as you think, they tend not to be that altruisitc, if only they were.'


Spot on Keith. I dispair at the almost total lack of political awareness (of any description) displayed by students today. My two, one uni, one A levels, dont have a political thought in their heads, whilst both me and the other half are the opposite.

I think that's becuse students these days are too concerned with making sure they can get a well paid job to pay back all the debt they are going to leave with

"isn't that what a lot of the people who died fought for - freedom"

Yes, many of them did fight for freedom - and they paid for it in blood. So let those naive, idiotic, ungrateful tossers, wear their 'I'm a middle-class pacifist' white poppies or Nancy-boy ribbons so that we may see who they are. Yes, let the tossers make their crass political statements if they wish. Their freedom to do so was paid for by those who fell at Flanders, The Somme, Dunkirk, Normandy and all the rest.

But what gets me is that, if blood had not been spilt in past conflicts, the wankers would not have any freedom to be na?ve, pretentious, twats, and the only emblems they would have the option of wearing might be black swastikas or the feakin' hammer and sickle! So I, for one, would expect them to show some gratitude and respect by wearing red poppies ? in recognition of the blood and sacrifice that so dearly bought their freedom.



Officer Dibble

So which would you prefer Dibble?
War or Peace?

Mart

mart wrote:

> I don't follow your logic...if there is any.
>
planeterotica wrote:

I think the logic is that we are remembering the people who died for our freedom, millions died in the red poppie fields in flanders and elsewhere in the first world war on both sides and since then the red poppie has been the symbol of rememberance.

Jacques,
I wonder why all our boys died on the killing fields of Flanders. Youth was certainly getting a bit Bolshie with two proletarian groups fighting in the streets the communists and the facists.

Russia was in a revolutionary state and the Ruling Classes were really worried. Then came the First World War with The Kaiser using chemical warfare and dropping bombs on the civilians in the East End from the Zeppelins.

After the war no trial for the Kaiser ,nephew of Queen Victoria,unlike Sadaam. Then the upper classes rested easy because all the angry young men were dead and all was quite again on the streets. Also big profits had been made for those in the arms business!

They shot British soldiers everyday. Your "mates" were picked for the job. An officer stood with his pistol ready to shoot you if you did not go over the top!

Mike

I agree!