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wow...you are seeing the light!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:56 pm
by Brickboy240
Alot of this recycling...while it has good intentions (so did communism), actually might cost more than burning or burying the stuff. Has there been any study into the energy exhausted to gather and melt down the glass and plastic that is to be recycled? It may pan out that it takes more energy to recycle than to landfill it and start anew.

Here in the USA, they're trying to introduce ehtanol into gasoline, but it takes alot more energy to produce ethanol than gasoline. Not to mention the fact that ethanol/gasoline blends are not as efficient of a fuel for automobiles, so they require more gas/ethanol blend to go the same distance than straight gasoline.

Is the air cleaner? Barely, but it might be a wash, since we're burning more energy ot create the ethanol in the first place.

Bottom line: many "green" initiatives have good intentions...I won't fault them for that, but thats where it ends. Energy-wise...some of these "green" initiatives make no sense at all.

- Brickboy240


Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:46 pm
by Steve R
Excellent post, Jacques!


Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:00 pm
by mart
Surely "Going Green" is about saving resources rather than saving money.

Mart

Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:33 pm
by randyandy
I am not remotely arsed about spelling mistakes or punctuation; I do enough of my own lol.

What I don't need is to be told to understand that the 'being green' policies of the likes of David Cameron aren't the policies of 'being green'.

Thanks for the lecture alicia_fan but it wasn't needed.


Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:22 am
by alicia_fan_uk
Randyandy said:

" >I am not remotely arsed about spelling mistakes or punctuation; I do
> enough of my own lol.

> What I don't need is to be told to understand that the 'being green' > policies of the likes of David Cameron aren't the policies of 'being green'.

> Thanks for the lecture alicia_fan but it wasn't needed.


randyandy, this wasn't meant as a lecture in any way, and I am sorry that you have obviously taken it as such. I didn't tell you or anyone that they must all conform to my way of thinking - god knows no-one listens to me anyway! However, I do apologise for any offence I may have unwittingly caused.

I'm just trying to put across my point of view, as plenty others here are doing. I am not telling anyone that they must understand or do anything - at the end of the day, it's all about people making choices about what they believe, support and (ultimately) do.

Cheers,

alicia_fan_uk

Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:16 pm
by Brickboy240
Yes, but what if it takes more energy to go green than to use a fossil fuel?

What then have you saved?

- Brickboy240


Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:43 pm
by mart
Depends on whether its renewable energy.
And btw, if you read back through the posts on this thread, I don't think you'll find much if any praise for Clinton and Gore so why bring them into it?
Except you always did.....lol

Mart

Re: Going Green - the big con

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:18 pm
by randyandy
OK You put " But please try to see the difference....." and I put "I don't need to be told to understand that the 'being green' policies of the likes of David Cameron aren't the policies of 'being green'".

Equates to the same thing in my view but thanks for clearing the error up for me.