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Re: very true crofter
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:28 am
by AlanT
We can only hope Microsoft learn from the mistakes, I hope they go to their knowledge base and read and understand all the security issues and bugs. I really hope Vistas will work well and be a turning point for Microsoft OS Systems. Fingers crossed.
Al.
Re: very true crofter
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:10 am
by Deuce Bigolo
Microsoft don't want to learn IMHO
They leave the poorly written programs in place so their security software sells
You could argue the poor programs are due to the time constraints but seriously if a hacker can come up with a security breach within weeks/months then you've got to question who's at fault
Inept or manipulated Programming or seriously brilliant hackers?
I know how business works and it isn't hard to figure out which
answer is correct
cheers
B....OZ
Re: Mac or PC
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:23 am
by Jacques
Lol....XP and OSX are both half-breeds of Unix. OSX is just better (unless you encounter Java). Now if IBM hadn't fucked up OS/2 - now that was an operating system to be proud of.
As for Linux? Currently using SUSE with 2.6.13 kernel and damned fine it is too....
Re: very true crofter
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:38 am
by Jacques
My dustbin is 'Windows 1984' compatible.
Re: Mac or PC
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:18 am
by Cenobitez
I think OSX is 100% based on *nix, hense the name "Macintheft", where as XP at least re-wrote most the code
Macintheft and Microshaft whats a man to do
I want to put a fedora core install on my old pc, so i can run a VPS/VPN server at home, but i never seem to get around to it
Re: very true crofter
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:39 pm
by Matt - A-W-D
I still find it amazing that you can spend ?1000's on a Mac and you only get one mouse button !shocked!
Re: Mac or PC
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:42 pm
by Guilbert
>Now if IBM hadn't fucked up OS/2
OS/2 was a joint IBM & Microsoft project, both companies had developers
working on it.
(I know becuase I was working for IBM at the time).
Because MS had problems working with IBM they went out and bought the
code that became Windows NT (off DEC I think).
Windows NT became Windows 2000, which became Windows XP and
Windows Server 2003.
Looking back I think MS did the right thing to ditch their link with IBM when
they did, IBM was just holding them back.
In fact in the preface to the "OS/2 Programmer's Guide" Bill Gates said:
"I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system,
and possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, which has
over 10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities for
everyone involved with PCs."
Re: very true crofter
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:49 am
by mark cremona
I can understand your surprise Matt, I have used Macs Professionally since 1985, starting with the Mac Classic, and never touched a PC til around 4 yrs ago, I remember being stunned that it had Two mouse buttons to do what I had always used One for .
Re: very true crofter
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:25 am
by Matt - A-W-D
I used to have G4 and the 1st thing i did was get myself a 4 button mouse AND scrollwheel !happy!
Me + Mac and 5 Spare Minutes = CRASH CITY!
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:21 am
by Cenobitez
I opened 5 programs on my old windows Tualitin machine, 1.4ghz proc, and my mate mac laptop, which he bought aweek ago, he opened the same, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Word, Web Browser and EmailClient, i emailed 20mb files to both machines, and opened a 12mb image file with 8 layers each, opened a website uploaded 30mb to the serverand started to print with wordand browe the web, and Po Po Mac FROZE on me, and my PC ate it alive...
The Mac just cant handle it, which weas funny as my mate told me, he's used mac laptops for years and only have 1 crash hehehe, FEAR my mac crashing skills