Human rights lawyers

[nachovx]

Of course no one came for Idi Amin (AKA 'Big Daddy'), Pol Pot or Stalin ... all dead by now. Radovan Karadzic and Osama Bin Laden seem to be doing pretty well despite international warrants for them.

I think some organizations like Liberty focus too much of their attention on ethnic minorities, although you could argue they're the most oppressed ... but in reality they just shout the loudest in some cases. They do their public image no good by trying to argue that Muslims had nothing to do with the London bombing - citing the people who carried out the bombings as criminals (who just happened to be Muslim).

People in the UK aren't really bothered about Human Rights as they hold the "I'm alright Jack" mentality ... and to be honest most of them don't deserve them. There's a huge difference of opinion in the UK as opposed to a country like The Netherlands - in the UK the government sees it's role as imposing it's will on the population , where as in the Netherlands they see their role is to carry out the will of the population. But most UK citizens need to be oppressed to an extent, otherwise they would run wild as they're not quite civilised yet.

[Spook]

Well I certainly think that human rights are a good thing - so lawyers who support human rights rather than making a lot more money from the realms of corporate law etc certainly aren't bad by definition.

[mart]

I don't think you understand the context of the Niemoller quotation nachovx. That was Nazi Germany and he was in Sachsehausen and Dachau from 1937 until the end of WWll.

Mart

[nachovx]

It's an over used quote and somewhat of a cliche. Niem?ller was a deranged pacifist, but it's not at all certain it's his quote:

From

This quote appears in a number of wordings in various sources. Niem?ller gave hundreds of speeches and talks in his post-war travels and often concluded his speaking engagements in the United States with these words. Thus, he may have changed the wording somewhat from one speech to the next. I have yet to find an original source for any of Niem?ller's exact wordings. Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (from which I derive the wording above) does not cite an exact source, but renders the note: "attributed."

[Fred]

Nice try.

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/niem.htm

[Fred]

So you "know a bit about persecution and intolerance"?

Yeah, right.

"What do you call, a Human rights lawyer, at the bottom of the sea, A GOOD START"?

More like the ghost of John Tyndall reincarnated as the Brown Bottle.