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And I have seen the State of the Union address a few times---and a strategically shaved monkey that can just about read an autocue does not a president make. By the way, does he get a four-year-old to write his speeches, or is it Georgie himself who mangles the English language.

Clinton was sleazy, Clinton was more right wing than many people believe (and if you have read Stupid White Men you'll find huge amounts of criticism of Slick Willy). The one thing he was not was a dynasty builder. George Senior is the power behind the throne, and I'm sure little brother of Florida will be waiting in the wings when Dubya is finally done.

Given that so many politicians are lawyers, why the hell do we believe any of them?

Bimmercat wrote:

> Job outsourcing? Well, he DID hire a Canadian internet sercer
> provider to house the data on his own website, yet he rails on
> about US jobs being sent overseas.

I thought he's Canadian?

> War? Well, Mr Moore was awful quiet when Pres. Clinton sent
> cruise missiles into Iraq, went into Kosovo/Bosnia, bombed the
> asprin factory in Sudan and accidentally bombed the Chinese
> embassy in Belgrade. All of a sudden, he sees war as
> wrong-headed, when Bush tries it? Come on now.

He doesn't really strike as a pacifist. The problem with Bush's war
is the motive behind it: waging a war to make yourself and your buddies
a nice little earner, and pretending to the rest of the world that
you are fighting a just cause.

Moore may be a hypocrite, though probably not by politicians standards.
Bush is not just a hypocrite. He is evil.

what is striking is the sophomoric tone used to accuse moore of that self same failing.

on a related note, the following clips contain any number of quotes that could be lifted and inserted into 9/11 (and, of course, he does touch on these issues in the film). perhaps newnight is also produced by stupid, fat, white men with a hidden agenda...






oops! how unfortunate...

Bimmercat wrote:

> Michael Moore was born in Flint, Michigan - last time I
> checked, this was not in Canada.

I know, but I vaguely recall his nationality coming up in a TV quiz recently.
But I cannot be sure about that.

> The oil industry was handed over in its entirety to the new
> Iraqui govt. - how are "Bush's rich buddies" profitting from
> this? If they really wanted to profit, wouldnt they keep some
> control over this fertile industry?

By having cronies in the Iraqi government, by letting them inherit contracts from the occupying administration.
And it's not just about oil, it's also about contracts for reconstructing the
country, and arms trade for the future Iraqi army. All industries in which Bush's friends and supporters have a foot in.

But, more importantly: I didn't claim that the plan had actually worked,
because I never said Bush was clever, only that he was evil. As it stands at the moment, they would not want control over the industry, because the "liberation" of Iraq isn't quite seen in these terms by the locals and any foreigners trying to run the oil industry from within Iraq would risk life and limb. Better letting the locals do it but keep them in control with the military.