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Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:19 pm
by The Last Word
Somewhat harsh - though I imagine much of the anti-brigades' ire stems from that small minority of smokers who still couldn't quite comprehend the difference between smoking areas and no-smoking areas in the same establishment, and have thus called for an abolishment of the former in order to make it easier to understand.
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:29 pm
by Pervert
Licensees in Scotland are up in arms about the threat of legislation prohibiting smoking where food is served. They fear that if people aren't allowed a fag with their drink, then they won't go out to pubs. No consideration for the non-smokers, who have for decades had to accept the negative side of smoking if they wanted a drink or to meet friends in pubs. As The Platters sang, smoke gets in your eyes, and into your throat, and up your nose.
Amazingly, some of the publicans claim to have no smoking areas---which is open to the non-smoking areas. Smoke being unable to read signs will go where it will.
Oh, and the public execution thing was a joke, TLW. It'd be better with Ian Wright presenting it
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:34 pm
by Ace
Im a NON-SMOKER, BUT have no qualms that people light up in the pub. I expect that, after all its a BOOZER!!
However, I do think restaurants should be non-smoking, and if the eaterie is in a pub, it should be non-smoking in the dining section.
My main gripe in pubs is not smoking but fucking kids..not the 16 year old with his mums mascara on his bum fluff 'tache, but the little cunts that drink pop and take up good seats............L'il wankers
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:44 pm
by Ace
4 at once Stevie, or one after the other?
Mind you, Xmas dinner....made a change from yer canelloni eh?
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:02 pm
by Lizard
Fair point well made Ace! my g/f smokes, and I get pissed off having to sit in what I term 'the cancer section' I,m paying the same price as non smokers, and I cant be doing with "it will kill you" well of course it might! but so will every other fucking thing on the planet, how many people do you see in the A and E dept of a night, with smoking related injuries, then how many with drink related ones! I rest my case, live and let live, there is NO conclusive proof that passive smoking harms anyone, the main damage caused in pubs to one,s well bieng, is other peoples offspring running around like mindless cunts, whilst their parents get hammered!, and then DRIVE home! I have seen this countless times, if you do this, one day you are going to KILL your own children far quicker than any Benson and Hedges will!
If you smoke, your not doing your health much good, if you drink and drive, your a potential murderer waiting to happen!
Harsh! yes.
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:03 pm
by jj
.....has it occcurred to you that a society that marginalises to the point of criminality a significant minority of its populace no longer has the right to claim status as a free society?
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:04 pm
by jj
Then you ought to have gone to one of the many smoke-free pubs in London, and left the old hag to her lingering and painful death (although not as lingering and painful as being bored to death by fascist fanatics....).
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:08 pm
by jj
I notice you don't raise any objection to your clothes being soiled by diesel-fumes and acid rain, or stained with the various filth that results from people 'enjoying' their freedom to eat messily and noisily/drink to stupefaction/chew gum/vomit/defecate/piss/and (ye Gods...) fuck, in public?
Yiou really ARE gettiing in touch with that inner fascist.......
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:10 pm
by jj
I agree non-smoking areas are pointless- but a proportion of smoke-free pubs would let the market decide, and remove the nasty element of coercion (for your own good, of course....) that is never far from the surface with Labour's Puritatn tendency.
Re: smoking in pubs
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:14 pm
by jj
I've pointed out to a few consultants that by campaigning for abolition of smoking they are in fact damaging the very NHS they claim to serve- with duty/taxes, smokers contribute disproportionately highly to the NHS budget, and as a group die younger, thus not requiring all that expensive prolonged palliatve, radical surgical and geriatric care that cost the country so much. Then they start wittering on about Hippocrates.......
Don't come moaning to me when yer NI contributions hit 25%...........