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First of all I'm always on the side of talent.
But there is such a thing as being over indulgent.

You have to be practical and know the nature of the beast. This is the sex industry and the name of the game is to get as much as you can for as little work as possible. When you're a pornographer, if you don't set a standard, talent will walk all over you.

On that note...
The low end pornographer is quick to film everything and anything without looking into the business side of things. Girl-Girl/Lesbian sex videos sell like crap! For every 30p you earn selling lesbo, you can earn $30 with standard boy-girl.

I run a chop shop and I give the buyers of my footage free lesbian scenes. (IE: They purchase 5 scenes from me I throw in a free girl-girl scene)

This industry is ultimately about money!!! It's not about getting your sexual jollies off! Most of the low-end pornographers and 10-buck-johns are too busy being titilated by what they are doing.

I don't hire girls that only do girl-girl or work exclusively with their boyfriends, or only do "softcore". She can be the goddess aphrodite herself, but if she won't fuck a cock I won't call her for work. I am a pornographer, I shoot hardcore movies, and I work with talent that does the same. I support those in the industry that are really serious not fence sitters.

As for the boyfriend and male talent....
At the threat of sounding like an ugly Los Angeles pornographer, I don't care what the penis-prop's porn resume says or who he has shagged or performed for. Until I see the cock in action for myself, as far as I'm concerned it don't work.

All new male talent has to prove himself to me, but I will give him a chance to do so. I can book him in a boy-girl-boy scene with a proven meat-puppet or for a blowjob scene. That way I'm not cranking out shit product (limp dicked scenes) and loosing money because some guy can't get wood.

Their choice, not everybody want's to see 'giblets' - as JoeA say's there is a market, it wouldn't be sold/made if there were not.

Boring or not I find it difficult not to threadjack - but I won't.

Perhaps the point you were originally trying tomake has been lost somewhat, so I'll try & respond with my own humble thoughts....

Have you ever wondered why there is 'demand' for boy/girl videos (with partners or otherwise)? Is it possibly because there is a limited opportunity to watch other people 'at it' & the voyeur in us all loves to watch & learn? I guess so.

That being the case, if you get your way & everyone who wants to be a model/actress should fuck anyone you tell them to, wouldn't the market become flooded with b/g porn & the mystique of 'not everyone does it' would disappear. Victoria Brown has done some awesome solo work for bustybritain & I would defy anyone to tell me it would've been hornier for her to go through the motions with one of your studs. Meanwhile, Angel makes fucking anyone a pornagraphic masterpiece.

I'm all for girls in this business choosing their own path. Whilst some might make a mint, other do enough to get by. Please don't knock people for having varying levels of choice & desire. Variety should remain the spice of life.

jamesr wrote:
Have you ever wondered why there is 'demand' for boy/girl
> videos (with partners or otherwise)? Is it possibly because
> there is a limited opportunity to watch other people 'at it' &
> the voyeur in us all loves to watch & learn? I guess so.
>
That being the case, if you get your way & everyone who wants
> to be a model/actress should fuck anyone you tell them to,
> wouldn't the market become flooded with b/g porn & the mystique
> of 'not everyone does it' would disappear. Victoria Brown has
> done some awesome solo work for bustybritain & I would defy
> anyone to tell me it would've been hornier for her to go
> through the motions with one of your studs. Meanwhile, Angel
> makes fucking anyone a pornagraphic masterpiece.
>
> I'm all for girls in this business choosing their own path.
> Whilst some might make a mint, other do enough to get by.
> Please don't knock people for having varying levels of choice &
> desire. Variety should remain the spice of life.
>
>

No...
I do defy you. A pro has few restrictions and makes any scene look good.
I don't mean to sound like a rude or arrogant person but as I am quickly learning, compared to the rest of the world...
The UK does not have a porn industry.

What you have is a few web guys and the odd photographer running around making a quasi-adult erotica product. There is the odd pornographer but they are soo few that in my opinion it doesn't add up to an industry.

Not to slap anyone with the Los Angeles glove... but in the SanFranando valley alone it is estimated that between 50-100 videos are made each day. No one would manufacture that many screw films if there wasn't a demand for the much product. And the industry is growing world-wide.
But it's not here.

It's not about doing the best with what you have....
It's about demanding more and setting a standard for what is available.

Therefore, I expect girls that work for me to aspire to be like Angel Long and make every production a great strokable product. In Los Angeles, and really most places in the world, if they are to be considered a porn actress, they will do everything it takes. (And Angel you have my complete respect ...the pace you kept in LA was simply mind boggling.)

Ultimately everyone has there pace, restrictions and limitations. But someone who only does softcore isn't really a porn actress now is she? And as for girl-girl only, thats just silly, because they will never be a mainstream success having done hardcore, and as far as hardcore goes they are only a half-arsed porn performer.

Again, not to sound judgemental, arrogant or to offend anyone....
But the fans of erotic entertainment just don't "get it." And never will. Porn is something you have to experience from within to understand. To an outsider, it looks easy and always will. Until you're fully immersed in the jizz bizz, you will never be able to see it from the only perspective that matters. The perspective of those that manufacture the product, serious talent included.

Kelly..

LA has Porn Valley.. UK doesn't.

Over the pond as a lot of the shoots are done in the one main area, agencies provide cars to get the models to the sets on time. In the UK, as shoots are done all over the country models travel on their own to a shoot most of the time and so have to rely on public transport or hope their own car gets them there

Over the pond a 9 am shoot means 9 am. The shoot starts and usually finishes PDQ. Models can then go home have a shower etc. and be on another set a few hrs later. Some models even manage 3 scenes in a day with different producers.

In the UK it's a more laid back approach as there aren't the same pressures. You really can't compare the way we and the US people work. If you are going to shoot here you will need to get used to the UK way of working and not expect UK people to work as if they're in the US.

And remember... Due to UK porn laws there will always be a difference between both countries. When porn doesn't have to go through the BBFC, can be sold in non licensed premises and get be legally mailed through the post etc. to consumers, then things may change... Till then.. There are too many restrictions to make the UK competetive with the US.

I'd disagree with you on that joe...

Not all companies are laid back, but can see your point....

A day at one of our shoots paints a totally different picture...We reg shoot 3 -4 different scenes in one day...Time is money so why waste it...short, sharp quailty shooting very much so like over the pond...

Girls know what time they need to be there and wat time they will be done...we get the scene and they go home happy and on time...


Regards

Scorpian

Scorpian..

Your're shooting for an array of sites within the group not just for a single Dvd....

Most producers are shooting for one film. You need to get the material in the can asap to update the sites first. Your Dvd's are made up of shoots done on different days, or am I wrong and there has been a 2 hr film shot with the one theme/story line ? This isn't a dig but another reason for a difference in the way of working.

Look at **********s productions and Kendo's latest "Stiletto," as these couldn't have been rushed.

It's horses for courses

Fair enough...

Can't comment on ********** stuff not seen it...only really focus on our stuff...

I was just looking at the point about girls 3 scenes for different producers in a day..

Most girls do 3 scenes for us in a morning...All for a different array of sites and they look stunning in everyone and always give a great scene...

Joe A wrote:

> Kelly..
>
> LA has Porn Valley.. UK doesn't.
>
> Over the pond as a lot of the shoots are done in the one main
> area, agencies provide cars to get the models to the sets on
> time. In the UK, as shoots are done all over the country models
> travel on their own to a shoot most of the time and so have to
> rely on public transport or hope their own car gets them there
>
>
> Over the pond a 9 am shoot means 9 am. The shoot starts and
> usually finishes PDQ. Models can then go home have a shower
> etc. and be on another set a few hrs later. Some models even
> manage 3 scenes in a day with different producers.
>
> In the UK it's a more laid back approach as there aren't the
> same pressures. You really can't compare the way we and the US
> people work. If you are going to shoot here you will need to
> get used to the UK way of working and not expect UK people to
> work as if they're in the US.
>
> And remember... Due to UK porn laws there will always be a
> difference between both countries. When porn doesn't have to go
> through the BBFC, can be sold in non licensed premises and get
> be legally mailed through the post etc. to consumers, then
> things may change... Till then.. There are too many
> restrictions to make the UK competetive with the US.
>
>

Joe , I'm glad we finally have decent dialogue.
But as far as LA goes you don't have all your facts straight. There is only really 1 agency and that is World Modeling. They tried arranging for special rides for a few girls, but ended up losing money and stopped offering the taxi type service. Talent is expected to get themselves to a shoot.

There are Managers that do everything from accomodate to transort the girls, but for that they also get a percentage from the girl's pay in addition to a booking fee of $100 from the production company.

And how a shoot operates in regards to being on time or not depends on the director and many other factors. The biggest difference is the captialism!

Yes time is money! No one will dispute that but no one has to tolerate anyone's rubbish. A producer will tell a girl what he wants and how much he is paying. She can either accept or not. Odds are if she say's something like, "Oh I only do softcore." No one will ever phone her for work again.

As far as the UK laws....
The american porn industry fought and continues to fight for it's right to make adult entertainment. If the BBFC was in the United States it would be challenged in moments by the Free Speech Collition. Something I hope you have but I have not yet found.

Nothing will change until you demand more and make a stand on it. But on that note, I'm finding british culture seems to like the status quo.

I'm not expecting people to do two and three scenes a day. That rate ultimately causes burnout and is the reason why talent travels back and forth between countries. But I am expecting that people are serious about making a hardcore product if they are going to claim to be pornstars, adult talent or pornographers.

Correct me if I'm wrong but what I really see happening is an industry dominated by a bunch of porn-fans earning a few quid throwing together some jerk-off material.