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Antonia wrote:

> Maybe admin
> should stop any new topics on this being posted??


Why?

Why??? Because its pointless and boring to keep going on about it. Karina has explained fully earlier, now Antonia has a go and still you won't listen.

ITS NOT ALLOWED... They cannot show it. Please just let it be, if you don't like it don't watch


Neil

Wondered when you'd turn up Neil..........So I'll ask again just to make sure everybody understands:

Where specifically does it say that it's not allowed? And remember we are talking law here and not a code of practice. That's all I am asking, it's very simple.

I have put forward the same points to show that it is actually allowed and no-one has come up with a reasonable argument against it. All anyone has said is "it's not allowed". If its not allowed show me because I can't see it.

Communications Act? Video Recording's Act? Proscription orders? Public Opinion? Harm to human rights? Ofcon Code? Broadcasting Act?

What is it? Tell me. I want to know.

You see what I have done Neil instead of saying 'it is allowed', is I have gone out and done a little research and said 'it is allowed because of the following'. What everyone else has done is said 'it is not allowed' and then quoted the law but not which one. Now you are saying to me it is not allowed, so I shall ask why?

It is time people realised what is going on and were told the truth about how they are being conned by ofcon the goverment and the broadcasters themselves.

Now if it is not allowed, what exactly is allowed? Tell me. Show me where it says what is allowed. Tell me what you can show and what you can't and where this guidance comes from.

You see my understanding of the 'code' they all say they work to is that you can only show upto softcore 18 strength material. Now if anything is shown above that level, by thier own admission they are breaking the law and should not be showing it. Now if they are showing above 18 material they are not following the ofcon code which kind of proves my point don't you think?

To be honest Jacques I am bored with the whole thing. I suppose you are saying its allowed for high street stores (ie HMV Virgin etc) to sell R18 videos. The law that means only licensed sex shops can sell them is the same law the prohibits hardcore porn on TV. Everyone in the industry has told you its not allowed yet you keep on and on and on and on....
Let it go.

Here here Neil, im just board of the repetition.

Jacques - please change the record,

If you want to see hard core, watch on the web, the quality is just the same as the tv and you get to see FULL insertions - whats your problem. If you dont like the show, dont watch but if your gonna keep on about us not doing it then watch on the web.

I'll look forward to your own show coming out on air and see how long it lasts!!

Toni x

NeilUK wrote:

> Everyone in the industry has told you its not allowed


Actually no they haven't but those that have have yet to show me, and I want to be absolutely clear here, show where it says it's not allowed.

Now what you are talking about is the VRA there Neil. The VRA recognises that R18 material is acceptable for home viewing, although R18 video sales are strictly limited to adults by restricting supply to licensed sex shops, you are quite correct there. It does not however apply to broadcasting as ofcon will confirm if you ask them.

So I'll say again show where it says it's not allowed.

Why do I go on about it? Because people deserve to be told the truth.

I thought the VRA only covered physical media. Electronic distribution is not included.

x

Come on then here is your opportunity to shut me up once and for all.

What do you show on TV and what 'code' do you work to? The published ofcon code or the 'secret agreement' code?

What do you show on Webcam? And why should I pay for this as well as for TV?

Where does it say that R18 is not allowed to be broadcast?

Do you think the way all UK adult broadcasters sell themselves to Joe Public to be a fair representation of what is shown?

Should ofcon be able to step in and protect Joe Public from from 'some' of the adult channels who mislead their customers into thinking that they show stronger material than they actually do?

The ITC (they used to be ofcon) always maintainted that the VRA prevented the broadcast of 'R18 material' they eventually admitted that this was wrong as transmissions do not qualify as video recordings under VRA section1-3.

Well perhaps you can answer a question as LiveXXX would not. The pictures taken from the 'Ceiling Cam', why aren't they shown from above, as with a ceiling cam you would think that, instead of being shown side on? I mean it is categorically stated on the forum that the images were taken from the ceiling cam.

I only ask as it appears those asking this very question have been banned from the LiveXXX forum according to the folks over at melonfarmers.