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The producers dont give a fuck what anyone wants, they film what they want to do, put it on the market, if they recover there costs... result!!!

Talking on webcam to a very horny beautiful girl, discussing this very point. Her comment was the the producers very rarely, if ever consult the girls. After all, who knows best what turns on the average guy.

Mart

Agree with everything except the "shorter scenes" one. A lot of what you talk about involves foreplay, sadly there will be very little time left for the sex. The Anna Span "Anna's Mates" compilation would be the best porn film in history if the actual fucking lasted 10 minutes in each scene rather than 5.

I would love nothing more. Just a few minor obstacles;

1 Time. I run my own company and work 12hrs a day.
2 Lack of knowledge on how to market finished product.
3 Convincing my wife that it's a good career move.

Any help / suggestions would be welcome.

If I knew more about number 2, I could probably overcome 1 and 3.

Mate, I couldn't agree more with you about this. How can they possibly call this 'editing'? Surely its more erotic/horny/sexy whatever they want to call it to see the girl actually undress. I could do a better job of editing with Windows Movie Maker!

Well, as far as I can see 'our great vision' generated a lot of interest so it can't have been all that bad can it?
Hey...what about this for a thought, the producers take note of the punters and actually make a film that we want to see, it then sells in copious quantities, the producers make a bundle of cash, the punters are satisfied and the whole process is repeated time and time again...........

Thanks mate, I thought that was a well-balanced opinion. I understand some of the commercial pressures that producers have to adhere to and I guess its all about striking a happy compromise because one man's meat (pardon the pun) is another man's poison. It seems to me that a lot of us guys on here don't like the real hardcore stuff that some of the american producers are turning out so perhaps we should stick to the more home-grown stuff that you describe.

On a lighter note, its funny isn't it what list you come up with when you're hammered. We debated in our drunken state long and hard about whether it should be 'Big natural tits' or just 'natural tits big or small'. In the end the drunken stupor got the better and any type of tits at all made the list!

Yo, Terry. Here's my ?10 quid's worth.

I agree there no easy answer to the question of 'What's normal?' But for the purposes of this discussion I reckon we can define a 'normal punter' as one whose tastes coincide with the majority of other punters. Normal punters may occasionally order the odd left field title out of curiosity (TV, spank, bukkake, Bi, midget etc) but they always veer back towards regular central patterns of glamorous natural girls, mature models, real big tits, stockings/ lingerie and movies featuring real tidy looking people - be they glamorous or girl next door types. The point is they should not look like contemporary post-2000 AD 'porn stars.' On the whole punters like to see people having the same regular sex as regular people do (as opposed to Porno Land sex that only people in contemporary porno movies seem to indulge in) they can identify with that. And that's what the sales data says week after week. It's been the same ever since I first started. What I'm finding now is that because punters can't get any new material that adheres to this seemingly simple recipe they are now asking for old titles - say pre 95. Hey, I?ve tried all the gonzo, bukkake stuff and you always sell a few, but there's no mega-mainstream interest in it. I?ll tell you what they want. They want gorgeous elegant French birds, They want pre 95 American stars, They want German Housewives (Yes, they're very popular. They just seem more real and natural than British housewives - at least the British housewives who appear in UK porn movies. Those people tend to be sex enthusiasts and swingers aping the mores of contemporary porn stars while smeared with the naffness of British popular culture. They are not the 'real' mainstream housewives like you see in Marks & Sparks. Punters would love those.

Regarding scene length; it should be 15-20 mins at most. Like in a scripted early 90's America movie or a 90-minute scripted Euro movie. That?s all you need to set the scene, strip the protagonists off, suck, fuck and spunk. On special occasions you might add a little arse action, but this is best used sparingly. Adding anything else or dragging out the scene will spoil the porno broth. You can only get away with spending an hour on a single girl if she is very, very, interesting or very special (either big tits, beautiful or both) and she has a demonstrable following. When I come across a drawn out scene I always get the impression that the producer is taking the piss. That they don't want to spend the extra dough on 3-4 other different couples to make up a proper interesting varied movie and they have such a low opinion of the British punters and their standards that they know they'll probably accept all that drawn out cobblers (spitting, pointlessly pulling fanny lips apart etc) that producers pad scenes out with. Having said that I'll stick my own hand up as probably being guilty of ?padding? in the past.

Officer Dibble

Mate, you are so right with that message. That's exactly what us normal hetro-sexual guys with healthy apetites want to see. I've got to say that some of my favourite films are at least 10 years old. Buttmans English Moderately Big Tit Adventure is a good example of a british girls movie that has all those elements you spoke about and I think it was made in 1994? From across the atlantic, another all time favourite of mine is John Leslie's Bad Girls with the stunning Anna Ventura, and god knows when that was made, 1987? So maybe those older style producers were onto something that has been lost with the current crop. Its good to see someone in the industry does understand his buying public, well done mate.