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Simon...

I know the feeling.. I have more clothing for models these days than for myself... LOL..

And 99% of my shoots are with the models wearing stockings and heels.. It's the only way.. I hate bare legs

I don't usually agree with your posts but on this topic I'm with you 100%. Glamour is the most important element, sexy lingerie, s&s, high heels (especially boots) hair styled, some real effort put into appearance, exoticism even.

Mart

The problem is that most porn producers seem to operate according to their own agenda without any consideration of what their customers actually want.

There was some discussion on these pages a little while back about cumshots. 99% seem to feature the stud pulling his cock out of whichever orifice it is currently occupying and wanking himself off over the girl's face, tits, arse or whatever. Is that sexy? No, in most situations of course it bloody well isn't. Why? Because none of us do it and we don't do it because when we're having sex we want the girl to bring us off. If we want a wank we can have one without bothering to involve a girl.

But when this point was made several alleged porn producers replied to the effect that it was far cheaper to do it that way (why?) and that they had no intention of changing their ways - fuck what the customers want.

Presumably the same thinking is behind the current trends. No expensive sets or wardrobe, just get the girl out of her clothes as quickly as possible and get stuck in.

As well as the lack of heels, stockings and sexy undies there is also a lack of build-up, foreplay etc to heighten the erotic experience.

There is, of course, room for everything in porn - girls with no knickers on park benches, wide open arses and sometimes even wanking over a girl's face (part of porn's attraction is the fantasy of having a girl completely surrendering and allowing the man to do whatever he likes), but I'm sure lots of us also like the glamorous, erotic style too.

Btw, I think the use of 'sometimes' in regard to Viv Thomas is a bit misplaced. He's the tops for classy porn.

Nice one. I've been thinking along the same lines for a while.
Isn't it an insult to the girl that the guy has to jerk himself off over her? And make such a production out of it. They generally sound as if they are shitting bricks or peeing razor blades.
I've never done that in my life, never even let the girl jerk me off unless that's what she wants.

But is that what makes male porn stars? The ability to shag endlessly without cumming so the money shot is that much more difficult to achieve.

Mart

nice one,

the first part of this post seems, IMO, to summerise what most people on this forum seem to think. We also often hear about producers/photographers etc saying how poor money in the business is these days. It's just my feeling put if producers went back to making what the majority want rather than the 'niche' markets (gaping/gangbang etc) there would be such a better return.

I would also say the gonzo format has been done to death also, if anyone wants to see a great film they just have to nosy through Ben's collection, anything new will have to be very special to beat it.

I would love to see a return to the style of simple stuff, sexy girl, nice clothes, good sex. I don't seem to come across much new stuff like this

Couldn't agree more.

This one of the most refreshing posts I've read. We want, more glamour and tease material, definately.

This could be shot softcore and still be very explicit and teasing, or shot hardcore and have tease, erotic build-up with the hard sex following.Either way there's just not enough of it about.


O/T
Can anybody help? Do you remember the origonal 'Buttwoman' with Tianna? It was out early 90's, filmed buttman style and all girl with a very teasing lesbian secretary orgy at the end.

I can't find it, but is it available anywhere preferably on dvd.

Thanks

I can't agree with you about Ben's collection. I'm tired of his salivating over "quote "18 yearolds and being ecstatic about every girl he films. Perhaps he has to use that chat line to get his knob sucked by all of them but some of them I wouldn't touch with a bar gepole.

Mart

And get rid of the "gym" biz. OK I like a girl who looks fit but I also like a bit of flesh. Whatever happened to girls who looked (and dressed) like Millie Minchen, Liza Phillips, Donna Murray..........OMG I'm showing my age.

Mart

Tomsk,

Our whole site is based on softcore, stockings etc, and many girls only do topless and some won't even do that, and I still get complaints from some members that there is too much nudity.

The softcore market is definetly thriving and I think very, very popular.

Not everyone wants to see what the girl has had for her dinner in each picture

Cheers

Paul.