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Re: Models take heed:

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:44 am
by DanG
Terry, you still didn't answer my question: Will One Eyed Jack Productions only be using tried and tested or established talent for its future productions, and not using any new talent? In effect, are YOU prepared to practice what you preach? I don't want you to take any unnecessary risks with your personal safety, you understand.

Just remember, the next amateur couple you film could be Britain's next Fred and Rose West!

Yes, as I said in my previous reply, I both applaud and appreciate the sentiment and intent behind your posting, and not for one second do I believe that you would use an incident like this to try and monopolise up and coming talent. However.....if you go back and re-read your post, it does come across like that, and does tend to tar all non-household name producers with the same brush.

Let my apply your logic another way and see if you can see the holes in it: My doctor is a white male. So was Dr. Harold Shipman. Do you think I should avoid seeing a) white doctors b) male doctors c) white male doctors or d) any doctor whatsoever? After all, he could be the next Harold Shipman!

There are plenty of sites offering advice to models on their safety, and I would advise all models to check them out, because there are some weirdoes out there. However, not everyone is a homicidal maniac, so it is both profoundly unfair, not to mention illogical, to put everyone in the same boat as you suggest.

Let me give you another example. I don't have a criminal record, nor have I served time at Her Majesty's Pleasure, but a number of well established and equally well respected names in the UK industry cannot say the same. Does this mean I am 'safer' to work with than them? Or just that I haven't been caught yet?

Also, your comments about all amateurs hiding in the shadows is even more insulting than the insinuations in your first post.

Try your statement this way, and see if you can see the sweeping generalisation contained within.

'Where will all the (gays/blacks/pakis/jews/immigrants etc.) be if the shit hit the fan (like a war or invasion?) and they had to stand up and be counted? I'd bet they'd hide in the shadows and deny ever having anything to do with (the United Kingdom), just to protect their own arses'

You could write speeches for the BNP (or at the very least ghostwrite a few of Richard Littlejohn's columns) with an attitude like that! Great way to just label and demonise a group of people en masse!

Anyway, I'm going to go and beat a hasty retreat with my tail between my legs, off to the safety of the shadows with the rest of my cowardly, selfish brethren, before Terry conceives 'The Final Solution' to those pesky amateurs!

Re: Models take heed:

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:04 am
by middee
This has become a post about amatuer makers vs pro makers. I think people have forgot about the true issue. The voilent death of a model.

1. If the girl had used an agency that vetted clients this may not have happened.

2. If agencies didnt exploit women on their books then this may not have happened.

She overlooked safety with the view to getting a greater share of the money. Sad but we dont know her circumstances and why the poor girl had to put herself out that much even though she had an incling about the man.

This is not a new thing as street girls take this risk every day of the year.

There is always going to be a murky side of the porn business whether you like it or not and it is going to exploit young and naive girls. And sometimes put their lifes in danger.

Lets pray that the US industry takes some steps to try and make sure this never happens again.

On another topic I am not too keen on alot of Porn that is coming out of the US. Where woman are seen to be manhandled and beat around on film. Max Hardcore and Meat Holes, Throat Gaggers seem to be some of the culprits.

From the looks on these girls faces surely they must think what are we doing here. Some of them nearly get chocked to death on film and have their mouths all pulled open. This kind of porn does nothing for me. But can you imagine what it does to someone who is into violent sexual activities. It only takes a bit of over excitement with these people to turn a sick sexual fantasy into a morbid and tragic sexual fantasy.

Ladies just take care.

Re: Models take heed:

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:15 am
by Pianaman
Yeah I feel the same way about certain trends in porn at the moment.