totally agree..
When i did get TVX for a while...my gf said, "what was the point? they dont show anything". And i agree...
And why dont they?
we get Reservoir Dogs on Channel 4. A fairly enjoyable but [pretty repulsive (im not fan of gratuous violence) film
It should happen. there was a very minor outcry from the Daily Mail constituency when R18's became available, but quite quickly the public opiion switched to "so what?"
Put my name down...
Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
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steve56
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
irecall an early upstairs down episode where jacky tong was sitting up in bed singing de campton races and her tits were visible,i had a quick wank when i went to bed iwas only about 15,16?
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The Healer
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
Pros and cons of this argument.
Pros, under EU law, especially Spain censorship is a limit of a person's human rights.
The amount of so called normal people who would tune in would scare the shIt out of any regulatory board.
If you followed current R18 regs most tastes would be catered for.
Cons,
Do gooders.
Price, if Sullivan got a foothold prices could be pretty steep.
Quality of britporn could put off a lot of couples, I know of girls who watch high class Euro or US porn but would find McCavity etc highly offensive to women's tastes.
If the likes of Private or Vivid got involved the UK porn industry could be wiped out over night.
As for Floella Benjamin I recall an interview a while back where she came over as a real bible bashing prude.........oh dear
Pros, under EU law, especially Spain censorship is a limit of a person's human rights.
The amount of so called normal people who would tune in would scare the shIt out of any regulatory board.
If you followed current R18 regs most tastes would be catered for.
Cons,
Do gooders.
Price, if Sullivan got a foothold prices could be pretty steep.
Quality of britporn could put off a lot of couples, I know of girls who watch high class Euro or US porn but would find McCavity etc highly offensive to women's tastes.
If the likes of Private or Vivid got involved the UK porn industry could be wiped out over night.
As for Floella Benjamin I recall an interview a while back where she came over as a real bible bashing prude.........oh dear
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Paul Tavener
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
There may be some concerns over quality issues, cost and who owns who, however I think on balance it must be an improvement to have proper legal access in the UK. It is only with proper legal access that the market will be able to grow and develop.
- two points here
1. The Ofcom content board is taking on the appearance of a religeous menagerie, I only hope that they don't intend to apply their own personal religious morality to their work. I suppose it is possible but...
2. The Ofcom content board will only have an advisory capacity. The full Ofcom board will make the final decisions, so all is not lost... if they are made aware that at lot of people hold a different point of view...but that point needs to be put across, so please write (censorfreetv@hotmail.com).
- two points here
1. The Ofcom content board is taking on the appearance of a religeous menagerie, I only hope that they don't intend to apply their own personal religious morality to their work. I suppose it is possible but...
2. The Ofcom content board will only have an advisory capacity. The full Ofcom board will make the final decisions, so all is not lost... if they are made aware that at lot of people hold a different point of view...but that point needs to be put across, so please write (censorfreetv@hotmail.com).
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marcusallen
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
Tell us how to throw a spanner in their tiny little works & we will do so.I agree that from what you report, it has all the aspectds of an appeasement?kowtow to our ethnic/religious/racial minorities qho are now dictating to this "Mother of Democracy" courtesy of all the Do-Gooders etc. etc.
FUCK 'EM.
Leave us be ENGLISH and do what we ant to do without favour or fortune,
After all, this is OUR country - we were born here and live here.
There was a thing on the other forum about St George day and at the risk of being accused of racism (Ah! the DREADED WORD) I would merely point out that since we are English, we have the inalienable right to choose what we do/not watch in the privacy of our own homes.
The days of "An Englishmans Home id his Castle) seem to have gone out the window.
FUCK 'EM.
Leave us be ENGLISH and do what we ant to do without favour or fortune,
After all, this is OUR country - we were born here and live here.
There was a thing on the other forum about St George day and at the risk of being accused of racism (Ah! the DREADED WORD) I would merely point out that since we are English, we have the inalienable right to choose what we do/not watch in the privacy of our own homes.
The days of "An Englishmans Home id his Castle) seem to have gone out the window.
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Officer Dibble
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
"The amount of so called normal people who would tune in would scare the shIt out of any regulatory board."
It's a myth that there is a huge groundswell off sex-starved punters out there who are just gagin' for UK porn TV. There just isn't. If there were, those sex-starved punters would, in the absence of sex TV satisfaction, at this very moment be besieging licensed sex shops and the old established adult movie outfits that have been around for the past decade. But they are not. Sales are well down amongst most of my colleagues. If you could suddenly legally access proper UK shagging channels there might be a spurt of interest (as it were) but this would soon subside and you would end up with pretty much the people viewing who are subscribing to TVX and similar at the moment.
The thing is, as I have said before, people are simply not 'gagging for it' anymore. Everyone who wants to see a shagging movie has now seen one and they are sorted. They know that if they ever get the urge again they can simply pop down to the local sex shop, or maybe just fire up the old PC and spend a lifetime browsing free shagging photos, or photos of whatever flicks their switch. It's the age-old sweetshop syndrome. It's easily available, there's more of it than you could ever watch, or want to watch, so you suddenly find that you?re not feeling all that peckish anymore.
"Do gooders?" I have different names for them. There not do gooders, it's wrong to let them bask in the warm glow of that cosy label. These people are spiteful, mean spirited creeps and nutcases who wish to invoke the power of the state to force you to adhere to their distorted vision of how society should be run.
"Price, if Sullivan got a foothold prices could be pretty steep."
I disagree. I recon that if Sullivan got a foothold his strategy would be to slash prices ? ?pile it high sell it cheap,? which would have a further deleterious effect on the quality of product being offered and would inevitably drag Brit-sex even further into the gutter. Have you seen The Sport lately? It really is appalling. Hey, it was never going to be The Times or Telegraph, but it has visibly sunk lower into the sewer over the past five years. The editorial policy appears to be to treat the readership as ultra-moronic pigs and the general quality of the birds featured is somewhere south of Crap. After ten years I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my Sunday subscription.
"Quality of britporn could put off a lot of couples,"
Er, quite. Hey, most of it puts me off!
"If the likes of Private or Vivid got involved the UK porn industry could be wiped out over night"
I don't think that would make much difference at all.
As for Floella Benjamin, isn't she the one who was always "though the SQUARE window?"
Dibble
It's a myth that there is a huge groundswell off sex-starved punters out there who are just gagin' for UK porn TV. There just isn't. If there were, those sex-starved punters would, in the absence of sex TV satisfaction, at this very moment be besieging licensed sex shops and the old established adult movie outfits that have been around for the past decade. But they are not. Sales are well down amongst most of my colleagues. If you could suddenly legally access proper UK shagging channels there might be a spurt of interest (as it were) but this would soon subside and you would end up with pretty much the people viewing who are subscribing to TVX and similar at the moment.
The thing is, as I have said before, people are simply not 'gagging for it' anymore. Everyone who wants to see a shagging movie has now seen one and they are sorted. They know that if they ever get the urge again they can simply pop down to the local sex shop, or maybe just fire up the old PC and spend a lifetime browsing free shagging photos, or photos of whatever flicks their switch. It's the age-old sweetshop syndrome. It's easily available, there's more of it than you could ever watch, or want to watch, so you suddenly find that you?re not feeling all that peckish anymore.
"Do gooders?" I have different names for them. There not do gooders, it's wrong to let them bask in the warm glow of that cosy label. These people are spiteful, mean spirited creeps and nutcases who wish to invoke the power of the state to force you to adhere to their distorted vision of how society should be run.
"Price, if Sullivan got a foothold prices could be pretty steep."
I disagree. I recon that if Sullivan got a foothold his strategy would be to slash prices ? ?pile it high sell it cheap,? which would have a further deleterious effect on the quality of product being offered and would inevitably drag Brit-sex even further into the gutter. Have you seen The Sport lately? It really is appalling. Hey, it was never going to be The Times or Telegraph, but it has visibly sunk lower into the sewer over the past five years. The editorial policy appears to be to treat the readership as ultra-moronic pigs and the general quality of the birds featured is somewhere south of Crap. After ten years I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my Sunday subscription.
"Quality of britporn could put off a lot of couples,"
Er, quite. Hey, most of it puts me off!
"If the likes of Private or Vivid got involved the UK porn industry could be wiped out over night"
I don't think that would make much difference at all.
As for Floella Benjamin, isn't she the one who was always "though the SQUARE window?"
Dibble
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
> The thing is, as I have said before, people are simply not
> 'gagging for it' anymore. Everyone who wants to see a shagging
> movie has now seen one and they are sorted. They know that if
> they ever get the urge again they can simply pop down to the
> local sex shop, or maybe just fire up the old PC and spend a
> lifetime browsing free shagging photos, or photos of whatever
> flicks their switch. It's the age-old sweetshop syndrome. It's
> easily available, there's more of it than you could ever watch,
> or want to watch, so you suddenly find that you?re not feeling
> all that peckish anymore.
>
> Dibble
some more grist for your deflationary mill, ossifer:
> 'gagging for it' anymore. Everyone who wants to see a shagging
> movie has now seen one and they are sorted. They know that if
> they ever get the urge again they can simply pop down to the
> local sex shop, or maybe just fire up the old PC and spend a
> lifetime browsing free shagging photos, or photos of whatever
> flicks their switch. It's the age-old sweetshop syndrome. It's
> easily available, there's more of it than you could ever watch,
> or want to watch, so you suddenly find that you?re not feeling
> all that peckish anymore.
>
> Dibble
some more grist for your deflationary mill, ossifer:
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Richard B
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
To answer Officer Dibble - It's worth a go in my book. - yes, there is much more porn available in the UK than ever before but think of this, there's nothing like TV - say TAC or TVX could show full on sex, there would be a lot more British hardcore and a lot more of our favourites could be much more easily seen in full-on fucking (and it appears much of TAC's output is shot hard but seen soft).
Sarah's Anal Gang-Bang is a classic case in point. What harm would t do for adult paying subscribers to see this on their telly after midnight?
As for the membership of the board, let's get one of us on it! Paul - ring them up and find out what you need to do. I'd sign the form.
Let's not give up now - done quietly and reasonably, I think we can win.
Sarah's Anal Gang-Bang is a classic case in point. What harm would t do for adult paying subscribers to see this on their telly after midnight?
As for the membership of the board, let's get one of us on it! Paul - ring them up and find out what you need to do. I'd sign the form.
Let's not give up now - done quietly and reasonably, I think we can win.
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Richard B
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
PS - where would Sullivan's rip-off prices come in? The wide availability of videos and the TVX/TAC competition should cut it down.
By the way, it looks like Private are trying to get back into Britain, more UK girls - the Scottish vid etc - look at their shop and you'll see prices for videos of around ?8 a time. Hardly rip-off.
By the way, it looks like Private are trying to get back into Britain, more UK girls - the Scottish vid etc - look at their shop and you'll see prices for videos of around ?8 a time. Hardly rip-off.
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Lightningboy
Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?
If the likes of "TAC" and "TVX" were allowed to go R18 hardcore I wonder how many of the current crop of British girls currently on there would actually participate in new h/core programmes...if you remember certain magazines such as Whitehouse and Playbirds used to feature British girls ala Debbie Corrigan , Charmaine Sinclair , Teresa May etc.etc. monthly..But when these mags went full on hardcore the British input dissappeared and was replaced by cheap, faceless europorn instead...this is what we'll end up getting on tv probably!...but still , I am 100% behind your fight Paul...keep up the good work!