thinking of doing full b/g

[one eyed jack]

I can see the logic in keeping the best stuff for yourself but what a lot of girls dont realise is, unless you have a good webmaster and good content behind you (and lots of it) you could be wasting alot of time and money when you could be out there earning without the headaches that come with running a site

Or you could do both.

I dont see why a lot of girls who have blogs these days don't earn off their work by becoming affiliates to the sites they appear on.

Sure you'll be making me money but yo'll also be making money for yourselves too. If youve done a lot of work and have a huge fan base you could make money from your own stuff as well as as others

Heres a bit more info

[jesswest]

thanks for all your comments I am going to do something for my site as well but I do want to get the first scene out there before that as like a few people have said I would get a better deal to shoot with someone else first as my site may not make as much as i would like it to for the scene. the stud im looking at working with is Danny D so no worries about the stud being ok.

so guy please do let me know if you would like to shoot with me

Thanks Jess

[Snow Patrol]

My '2 penneth' of advice?

Think of it as a purely mathematical situation...

Only you know how many members your site attracts - and how much they currently pay you.... And how much you generate from you site, in PROFIT. (YES - PROFIT) per month... You also know how many people visit etc...

That is info only known to YOU... (& your webmaster) In other words, no one else here knows that figure...

Write it down...

Then, find out how much someone else will pay you, to shoot for them...

Write it down...

Allowing for piracy, ask yourself ONE QUESTION...

Is the amount from your OWN site bigger, or smaller, than the offer from someone else?

And act accordingly... Its that simple... In other words, if the 3rd party, offers you say ?350 for the shoot... Would you earn MORE or Less than that - IN A MONTH- from your site?

If so, then keep it to yourself. If not - Shoot for third party...

Hope that makes sense and is of help


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[nikonman]

Jess,
Reading your mail and most of the replies, I get the impression that you have already made your mind up and you are going to do full B/G.

One thing you might consider is that once you have done so, it could be hard for you to go back to the levels you are now doing for shoots, has I expect togs and producers will want the higher levels

[Hugh6821]

"And act accordingly... Its that simple... In other words, if the 3rd party, offers you say ?350 for the shoot... Would you earn MORE or Less than that - IN A MONTH- from your site?"

And now I'm starting to wonder what a model like Jess West would be able to get for her first b/g shoot. I wonder if anyone running a site would be willing to comment on what they are willing to pay?

Cause nikoman has a point. "One thing you might consider is that once you have done so, it could be hard for you to go back to the levels you are now doing for shoots"

If instead a model was shooting her own personalized b/g vids (and I'm talking with her own partner), then those wouldn't end up online, and I think she would make a lot more than what a shoot for a someone's site would get her. It's not like there's a lot of producers willing to throw out money (obviously from reading bgafd for a while, there's seems to be one who does.)

How many fans do Jess have who would want their own b/g vid? What would those be willing to pay?

[Snow Patrol]

Hugh6821 wrote:


> How many fans do Jess have who would want their own b/g vid?
> What would those be willing to pay?

Exactly my broader point. Only Jess truthfully knows how much public interest (Public that are actually PREPARED TO PAY) from the stats on her own site...

She should be able to decide quite easily, if the public interest in her is worth more or less than the genearl interest... ie Appearing on someone else's site...

[Hugh6821]

"Only Jess truthfully knows how much public interest (Public that are actually PREPARED TO PAY) from the stats on her own site..."

I'm not talking about people willing pay ?29.99 to join for a month. I'm talking about people willing to pay a lot more for something that almost no other will be able to see.
The stats on her site would say nothing about whether there are enough of these or not.

[Snow Patrol]

Hugh6821 wrote:

> "Only Jess truthfully knows how much public interest (Public
> that are actually PREPARED TO PAY) from the stats on her own
> site..."
>
> I'm not talking about people willing pay ?29.99 to join for a
> month. I'm talking about people willing to pay a lot more for
> something that almost no other will be able to see.
> The stats on her site would say nothing about whether there are
> enough of these or not.

OH, OK... Apologies... I must be drunk again

Sorry

[katiek]

I agree. There will be people who haven't joined Jess's site because there's no full b/g on it and would join as soon as an exclusive b/g scene is launched. Producers would only make a big payout if they knew they would make money out of the scene and they would be the ones making the most money, not Jess xx

[one eyed jack]

Yes but if Jess was fairly remunerated then its all good. Making big money is not really that noticeable when people join sites these days forhow much bang they get for their buck. Jess might be the trigger of course but I suspect if she got any good payment for her first scene it would be from a big company.

Anyway shes practically giving away the stuff for free on twitter anyway and thats the point why some producers arent fussed about exclusivity anymore, because there is no such thing anymore. Once a girl has got paid big bucks for her first scene she is doingthe samehting for less in the same week.

If Jess wants big money Im sure she will get it from the same company paying another model 5k a scene !happy!

I would say Jess should get her fan base up on twitter, like Kerry Louise has, then do it for her own site then it should pay off better for her

By the way Katie it was nice seeing you at the Loaded party the other night !happy!