Setting up a models solo website

[kiNky erOtica]

I'll buy a kfc if ya in London

[Daz Savage]

When I do it - I do it for free.
The model doesn't have to worry about any costs whatsoever - beyond the clothing (and she's be buying that anyway).

If she's thingking of doing this as herself as owner and paying photographers regularly for her updates then I hope she's got plenty of money. In my experience photographers - ones that actually know the biz (and that's what she needs, not just arty-types who produce non-wankable material) will cost much more than a model would for the day.

[johnuk]

Unless the model is already famous or already has relationships with the big free sites to get traffic it just won't work. She's best partnering up with people who know what they're doing and just concentrate on modeling and producing content. This way it shouldn't cost the model a penny, with us we shoot, host, design, code and promote the site for free and we split the profit with the models.

[Daz Savage]

!previous!"Unless the model is already famous or already has relationships with the big free sites to get traffic it just won't work."!previous!
I disagree entirely.

Yes, if you're claiming to be one of the established 'big-sites,' a model will have a better chance at being promoted with you than with someone starting from scratch...
...But with most business there's an element of luck.

Telling him to give up before he's started might have appeared rational and kind-hearted (in this most hap-hazard of industries) if it wasn't that you ended by trying to 'crowbar' yourself in with an appeal to the model. (IMO).

At least cut the guy a deal if you're gonna try poach his girl.

[randyandy]

This thread got hijacked by people suggesting meals, presumably with some intent at humour and also by folks assuming that the info asked for is for me.

Still baffled by the meal stuff but with regards to the info for me understand that it's NOT.

The model in question mentioned during a conversation that one of her punters had said he would build her a site.

Because she knows I use this forum she mentioned it to me and I said I would try to find out the info needed, on top of what she has been told by her website builder because I didn't think it would be worth her while doing.

I couldn't give a fuck if she builds it or not I just thought helpful info on costs, legals etc. could be forwarded to her so she would have a rough idea of what to ask the site builder who is, presumably, telling her its a good thing to, while at the same time showing the amount of dosh (if any) she may have to pay just to get it off the ground.

[puretotty]

oh my days... me humour... never...

I posted it in the other thread, but here goes again... asking for free advice is like asking for free sex, you can get it but probably with someone you dont want to fuck !

One of her punters ??? So she's a prostitute who wants a website ? Sorry if I got that wrong but I only hear the term "punter" used by prostitutes...

So Maybe some people will give you free advice... it might be good, it might be bad...

I agree with Daz in as much as the success can be based on a shit load of luck, or a shit load of hard work... but in fairness in the current climate it may take a whole heap of both to even get close...

Also John is a good guy... I doubt very much he wants to poach your girl, but then to my understanding she isnt "your girl" just a girl that wants to go alone...

I am going to be at the ETO show tomorrow and hopefully the XBiz meet in London on Tuesday... if your at either look for the big fat bald ugly fucker walking around in PINK trainers ! Hard to miss lol

[Simon]

Andy there's no real answer to how much it would cost as there are cheap options at every step - and there are a lot of steps.
First off there's shooting the content and a good photographer will want paying or a copy of the content (in which case it won't then be exclusive and he may be able to sell it before she does)
She could get a friend to shoot photos/videos for her but it would still need editing to a certain degree and videos are another ball game.

A domain name will only set her back about $10 a year.

She probably wouldn't need a dedicated server to start with but certainly something that can grow if the site did take off. Search Google for "hosting" and then do your homework on hosting companies to see what feedback is available. Bad hosts you'll see a lot of negative feedback whereas good hosts hardly any.

You say she has someone to build the website but it will need updating regularly, minimum weekly if she wants to keep paying members.
She'll need to learn how to upload to her site, write code and add updates unless the guy is going to do all of that too. It's a full time job so I'd imagine he'd want paying or get bored pretty quickly.

She will need site security. Without this she could find herself on the wrong end of a $1000+ a day hosting bill in no time, been there done that. There are options with one-off payments of about $100 or the system I use is about $60 a month. She WILL have problems without it.

I could go on, and that's just to get a site up, but I'm sure you get the gist.
Running a successful site is more than a full-time job, in fact, there are never enough hours in the day.

Once the site is up she then needs to get traffic. That's a whole new board game and one that takes years of learning. Site owners won't be giving any secrets away, they took too long to learn and are treasured. Lack of traffic is the number one reason that sites fail.

Personally, if she has what it takes and is willing to work hard I'd tell her to find an established owner and agree a percentage of profit for providing the content.

Hope that helps,

Simon

[puretotty]

OK... read from here... James managed to get me to share some of my juice... lol

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=5&i=149164&t=148963

[johnuk]

No I wasn't saying I was one of the big sites, I was referring to the big free sites like the TGP networks, blog owners and tube sites that you have to work with to generate traffic to your site. As I said unless you have something very special and unique or the model is already well known you will have a very hard time getting the sort of traffic needed to make it worthwhile.

I'm not looking to crowbar my way anywhere, I've got enough on my plate and enough in the pipeline not to be looking to poach anyone's models and unless she is alternative I wouldn't be too interested anyway lol

[randyandy]

Thank you Simon

Advice I can use which is always appreciated.

Andy