Killergram are the best x

[Loz]

Sorry forgot to add Keisha your gorgeous hun. Maybe will work with you one day so i can really find out how tasty you are hehe.

Loz xx

[Keisha Kane]

See people Killergram are the bomb baby hehe and to be honest why do people say daft stuff seriously i love the crew at killergram and even disanto said i will always have a place there haha now he knows how good i am, but none the less if i wanna work with killergram why wont people just fuck off look at the hot pics and vids and be happy haha sorry just had to say it how it is at the end of the day i'm happy where i am if i dont want to do the circuit in the UK thats my choice then who else to blame but myself agreed hehe anyways no guys at any other company will hold anything on the guys at killergram hehe love yas Keisha Kane x x x

[DiSanto]

It takes quite a lot to get me to post on any forum. However after having a telephone conversation with a very emotional Miss Kane earlier this evening, I thought that I would write.

At Killergram we are proud to shoot Britsh content featuring girls of all levels of industry experience, shooting styles and ethnic backgrounds. We shoot 40 scenes a month and for every scene that we shoot, at least 10 girls could fill each space. I don't see any of these girls, either new or experienced models, being forced into shooting for us. It's their decision.

So what do we offer at Killergram? And why do so many new girls want to work with us?

Do we pay the best rates in the UK? No. Anyone in the business knows who pays the best rates and I respect them for doing so.

Are we the best? No, sorry but what the hell does "being the best" mean anyway. One mans meat Blah Blah Blah.

Do we shoot in fancy locations? No, Kieran Lee will tell you that. Kieran shot here for years and is now enjoying a succesful career doing his scenes with other companies, hanging off of crosses, riding a quad bikes or whatever the fuck else he's up to at the moment. Bottom line he can do a good scene and frankly his little jibes about how things are "so much better not being stuck in one location" may hurt my wife Anjali but they fall on deaf ears with me as to quote my Right Hand Man, Don Roobles "I couldn't give a fuck"... However best of luck to you Adam as you always be a part of what we did, no matter how much you, for some reason, slag us off now.

As you can see, Anjali is the polite one in our partnership and I'm not.

So this brings me to Mr "I'm a fucking keyboard warrior with no email" smokingfreak AKA a porno wannabe from adultwork.

Email me with an inventory of the "funny stuff" that you have heard about our company mate. Make sure you can back up the shite that you are chatting and then our lawyer can deal with you.

You quote, "These companies just use the girls for cheap labour" Well when you can show me the ?40'000 a month that we invest into the models each month and match our investment by doing the same, then you will be qualified to determine what is a "cheap labour".

To put it straight. I respect every company that shoots in the UK, period. They invest into the models and collectively we are trying to develop a UK industry. For people to sit on the outside looking in telling us how we should do this and pay that. If you only had to experience of the restrictive legalities, content thieves and general flack for trading in this business, you would then be a little less quick to to rip into us as an industry.

Look at Karlie Simone's site. The producers try hard to make something a little more interesting. Investing the time and cash only to have to hold up release for some "technical bullshit". Or **********s stuff, he pushes the boundaries and then has to fight to get his stuff through the BBFC as they try to cut it to ribbons. His stuff is fucking good so why mess with it.

Anyway back to us at Killergram. I can't tell you why girls like to shoot with us. Thats for them to say not me. In this industry you are bound to piss some models off but in general we are seen as quick, fair and easy to work with and the percentage of new girls that want to shoot with us and established girls that still do work with us, must account for something. Every girl gets paid the same. Even Miss Delta White.

In short we, like others, invest in the industry. We get our product onto the shelves, through those top fellas at Playhouse and out on the web via our site.

There's one simple thing that makes our business work. We work hard. Every single day I shoot, edit, capture, render to get the stuff out. While Mr Roobles runs around the country to bring you your Dogging Missions every week.

But the biggest asset that Killergram has is the Lady Boss herself. Yes "her indoors" makes the girls new or experienced feel at ease and at home and Anjali is still the main reason for any level of success we may have.

Lastly to any haters out there, don't try to engage to engage me in any "message board bullshite" because I just won't rise to it. Anjali wants some images brushing so she can post about another new girl.

Killergram is certainly NOT the Best but Miss Kiesha Kane is without doubt one of the finest ebony hardcore models to have ever shot in the UK (IMO). And one day I hope that she fulfills her dream of being big "Stateside"

Fuck me that was nearly as long as a Terry Stephens post (Only Kidding Terry:))

Disanto

[Don Roobles]

I can only add to Disanto posting on here that it does take a lot for him to actually find anytime to read and respond to posts.

I feel exactly the same and the way i see it if ANY model comes to us and wishes to only work with us then its entirly up to her surely.

Reading some of the comments on this posting about making it big in the US and not shooting too much is just pure contridiction in my books and i know this game inside out as most of you know.

In a nutshell we shoot a scene the best we can,it gets edited,it gets released and not 4 years down the road!! like a lot of other peoples stuff and i think models like that fact that they can actually see the work they have done.

Keisha is a great model and will go very far as long as the wannabe porn directors/leaches/go with me to a show to make me look good crowd just leave her alone to do what SHE wants to do.

Myself,Disanto & Anjali will continue to book models and shoot as much as we physically can for the forseeable future i can assure you of that.

As for the keyboard warriors,dirty shit faced snipers & the like you have my usual quote 'i really dont give a fuck...'

I must dash.. A DOGGING MISSION CALLS!!

Don Roobles

[keiran_lee]

Will you totally lost me there fella....

If you read my preivous post it was stating how she is in fine hands with you guys??? Please tell me how that is slagging you off in anyway????

As for going on about locations yeah you do shoot in one location and ???? I wasn't knocking that, never have??

Just because i mention on a myspace comment that it was nice to shoot at varied locations, which was a comment to another collegue and not directed at yourselves, why would you think i was having a " jibe" at you?????

As for me hanging off of crosses, riding a quad bikes or whatever the fuck else i'm up to at the moment....I'll use Don Roobles own words "I couldn't give a fuck"... hey it pays the bills and its porn..God i've done many wierd and wonderful scenes wouldn't you say...

Anyway aint looking to argue or slag you off to any one , as I am first to admit i had some great laughs working with you guys and wish you all the best for the future..

[Don Roobles]

So basically what your saying scorpian is that its cool to speak about the inner workings of shoots on a public forum such as myspace??

Ok cool i shall now defer to there cos you really do know I DONT GIVE A FUCK dont you.

[davepaterson]

I dont know Keiran, and I dont know Mr Doubles or DiSanto
- BUT I CAN READ................
and from looking at Keiran's first post on this thread - he was nothing but complimentary about Killergram. Considering that he has parted the ways with them, he didnt have to come on to this forum to add to posts comlimenting the work of Killergram.............but he did.

Its seems a tad bit of an over-reaction to slag him over some obscure comments previously made about shooting in the same locations or whatever. I mean people in life move on from job to job. They might miss their previous job........but its only human nature to rationalize ones new set of circumstances.....by saying stuff like : "i enjoyed my last job - but hey at least my new job gets me out more blah blah blah"

Ive not read his myspace comments - so perhaps theres more to this than meets the eye.....but from what ive seen, he has gone out of his way to compliment the work and management of Killergram - and instead gets shot down in flames.

If he really wanted to DIS them, then why the hell post on the thread like he did earlier. If he really is "full of jibes" then i would have thought the guy would have sneaked in a few subtle asides - but he didnt.

The person who REALLY is full of jibes is smokingfreak............and I for one would like that person to substantiate what was inferrred earlier.

[Anjali Kara]

Hi Dave
I couldn't agree with you more babe.
Disanto and I certainly wish Keiran well with his future
However I don't see how Disanto "slagged Keiran off, If anything he was slagging our own company off, for it's lack of exotic locations
You are definately right about "Ive not read his myspace comments - so perhaps theres more to this than meets the eye" as the inter-action was calculated and obviously something that could have been discussed in private...
ANJALI XXX

[davepaterson]

thanks Anjali for responding

What I meant by "slagging off" was the comment about "little jibes" and basically the inference that Keiron was in fact slagging you off on the myspace page.

My reaction was based purely on what i had read on this particular thread - as it looked a little unfair on Keiron....

From what you are saying, it appears that you feel that he (Keiron) was "calculating" in his comments on the myspace site. That is something I dont know about and its really not my business. From an outsiders point of view, its sad when a good partnership finishes with a bit of bad feeling - and i hope you guys and Keiron end up on good terms again in the future.

For whats its worth - on a slightly different note - I must compliment you on the tone of your posts on BGAFD.
Many people dont reply to threads - or are blunt/rude/sarcastic when they do.....
You on the other hand always seem to be positive / gracious / polite in your posts. Im not sure whether this has something to do with your (Indian) culture......but its something that I personally find refreshing.

Classy lady!

[Twingo]

From a active paying subscriber, ive found that Killergrams content is some of the best ive seen, its easily the best british site there is and is (i think) the only site that i have ever signed up to for more than 1-2months, so its the only adult site that ive visited in the last 3 years, that keeps me comming back for more (i was a member of adore anjali and a long term member of uncovered before also). So from a website/content whatever point of view, there obviously doing something VERY right. Just take a look around at the other websites in the UK, you show me one that has the same quality/content.

As for "cheap labour" i really dont think thats the case, as Disanto mentioned he might not be the biggest payer in the world, but they are still attracting some of the most fantastic talent ive seen from ANY website (not just british). Look at the list of girls on there website, alot of them are absolute stunners and im sure they could get a shoot at a higher price if they wanted to elsewhere, but no, they decided to shoot with Killergram.....i think that says something.

Regardless of what the stars/wannabe's/opposition think, the subscribers think you are doing a fantastic job (and thats all that should count), so please keep up the great work