49000 Pardons....er no thanks

[David Johnson]

You also seem to really hate your job in the Housing Association where you are forced to try and help people you appear to despise completely.

This seems another really depressing thing about your life.

[one eyed jack]

I used to think like you lot about gay people until I spoke and worked with them in the cinema business and realised their problem with the world was people like me/ you that thought badly of them.

I used that "normal" excuse and accepted they were wired wrong with hormones and all the other bullshit arguments that ignorant people use to justify their thoughts

What is normal? By your standards!?

So a man does anal with a woman makes it ok because the notion of reproduction makes it normal in your mind.

Where shall we draw a line at normal?

Are you single without a partner and without children living at home?

Is that normal?

Do you hunt for your own food and live off the land like Bear Grylls? Or do you use a microwave?

Does it make it ok that you are watching a porno where a guy fucks a female because it looks normal in that it could result in an offspring? If you was really straight you'd prefer lesbian porn all the way right?

Is it normal to watch another mans cock fucking a woman? Isnt that what we celebrate around here? Girls getting fucked

Normal to me is someone who accepts people do the things they do by choice and consent and what they do shouldnt be judged by anyone elses yardstick. Youre free to think what you want. Its your right to be prejudiced too but don't come up on here and expect everyone to agree with what you think is "norrmal".

I don't care what gay people do anymore than I care what straight people do. I just care what I do and who I do it with.

Youre right they don't deserve to be apologised to for being gay. Lesbian. Black or whatever. They deserve to be apologised to because they are people.

I been watching all this stuff on the Holocaust and people saying these gaunt wasted sick dying people are jews. I didnt see any jews. I saw people. Pale shadows of what was human, dehumanised because it was easy for their charges to kill them en masse.

I'm all about the people. Lucky for you I see you that way too and I couldnt care less about you being straight but if you bang on that hard about gay being normal I wonder if youre over compensating for something.

I question peoples motives when they have to harp on about things that dont affect their everyday living.

[max_tranmere]

As I said above, it is respectable to be gay and people who fall into that category deserve no discrimination, total equality and respect - but it certainly isn't natural. You only have to look at the fact that men and women are designed to inter-lock, to make babies, and without that the species would end. The purpose of every species is to reproduce itself, without that the species would end. Being gay is fine, but it's not natural.

[one eyed jack]

Step outside of yourself for a second and read what you just posted here....

Its "respectable to be gay but it certainly isnt natural"

So are we to quantify pornography the same way as well?

Why is lesbian porn not considered the same way then? Homosexuals may argue that love or lust in itself is a natural thing and who are we to quarrel with that?

[max_tranmere]

Lesbians are not able to do any more with each other than what would be described as foreplay if it was men. Men getting matey with each other involves sodomy, so the act between two guys is more profound and more of an 'act' than what lesbians can do. As I've said I don't have an issue with the whole gay thing, but how CAN it be natural? People are designed to reproduce themselves, like all species are, that's why men and women have the gear they got, and the function that gear has. It could be argued that heterosexual humans who never have babies are less vital, and have failed as people to a certain extent because they've not done the thing they were put on the earth to do - but at least there was always the potential for it to happen (procreation), they were doing the act with members of the opposite sex throughout their lives, and there was scope for procreation to occur. Gay activity is the opposite of all that and will never have the potential to lead to anything - and as I said before if everyone was gay the species would end.

[one eyed jack]

Clearly you do have an issue with the gay thing Max or you wouldnt be constantly trying to justify it with lesbian sex being acceptable because they cant penetrate each other but yes they can.

Lesbians are gay women

They can finger, fist both orifices and urinate on each other and not get each other pregnant just like gay guys and are usually not interested in the opposite sex...Just like gay guys

If you truly respect but not care for gay people and what they do why do a big song and dance explaining it and propping up Arginald by agreeing with him?

I'd respect you more if you just came out and said you was a homophobe...Oh yeah but your not. You cant be just half a hater.

[max_tranmere]

I think we'll have to just respect each other's opinions on this and agree to disagree.

[one eyed jack]

Deal

[max_tranmere]

Agreed. Lol.

[Essex Lad]

David Johnson wrote:


>
> I would defend to the death the right for you to speak as you
> wish within the law.

No, you wouldn't. Don't be daft.