From jail to jihad...

[max_tranmere]

Did anyone watch this programme on BBC1 on Monday night, about how moderate Muslims, and some people who previously weren't Muslims at all, go to jail and are radicalised? Very interesting. One guy was banged up for armed robbery, becomes a Muslim whilst in jail, and comes out and starts hanging around with that dickhead Anjem Choudary. Him and his crew start making "death to the West" videos, and start picketing Brick Lane in east London saying that shops selling alcohol should be banned and that alcohol drinkers will burn in hellfire. This twat was even allowed out of jail on day release and made some of his videos on those days.

Another guy, a white guy who was not a Muslim went he went to prison, but became one whilst inside, was interviewed and was spouting the same daft crap as the other guy. I always find it strange when these white non-Muslims from London become Muslims, they always seem to speak with a cockney accent with a hint of Jamaican thrown in. Very odd. Anyway, it was an interesting programme. One thing viewers can take some comfort in is that it seems the dipsticks who go on 'alcohol patrols' around the East End, who want 'death to the West', and who praise the 9/11 and 7/7 bombers, are few in number. It seems so anyway.

Interesting programme. Did anyone else see it, and what did you think?

[cockneygeezer2009]

I didn't see it but i'm sure it gave the bigots more ammunition to shoot down the people they hate.

It seems that it is very easy to make some people radicalised or some people a bigot. Their hated of everything they don't like means both groups have lots in common.

[David Johnson]

Prisons are a good recruiting ground for anything or anyone.

Prisons are full of inadequates. Many with mental problems, horrendous family backgrounds, lower intelligence than average and semi-literate or complete illiterates.

It's wise for the Intelligence Services to put in quite a bit of resource to keeping tabs on the activities of the recruiters.

[max_tranmere]

What made me feel good when I watched this is most of the loons who go on 'alcohol patrols' in east London, tell women in the street to weary less revealing clothes and so on, have been arrested and some even jailed. It shows the authorities get tough on these people. If I lived in that part of London I'd find it very intimidating if I was to be confronted by some guy with a huge beard and sandals, wrapped in a bed sheet, having a go at me because I had just bought some cans of beer at the off-licence. Thankfully these goons seem to be small in number and, like I said, the authorities have got tough with them.

[max_tranmere]

I agree that prisons are recruiting grounds for all sorts of things, it's always been said that so low-level criminals become more serious criminals and more educated in how to do it after spending a few years inside - because they encounter much more hardcore guys who train them. Prisons are 'academies of crime' as someone once said.

We hear a lot more these days about Muslims being radicalised inside though, and that concerns me more. The reason it concerns me more is because a more extreme criminal will do a greater criminal act, usually involving some kind of financial or material gain - whereas a hardened, radicalised, muslim is likely to commit mass murder by blowing up buildings, planes, trains or whatever. As the muslim popluations expands, both in ordinary British society and in the jails, we have more worrying times to come.

[cockneygeezer2009]

"the loons who go on 'alcohol patrols' in east London, tell women in the street to wear less revealing clothes"

I've seen some of these nutters on the local BBC news. Good thing the police clamp down on them. Some of them seen to forget this is a secular country.

[cockneygeezer2009]

"We hear a lot more these days about Muslims being radicalised inside though, and that concerns me more."

Some people can be radicalised easily. Normally by some kind of speaker/s who believe that what they say is correct (when it normally isn't). Some people are easily influenced and will believe any old shit that they in prison, a mosque or anywhere else where you can influence people.

[Arginald Valleywater]

Why not put them in cells with Jewish, Catholic or someone from another religion?

[cockneygeezer2009]

"Why not put them in cells with Jewish, Catholic or someone from another religion?"

It may be against their human rights!? That's the British prison system for you. I think prisoners can ask (or insist) on not being put in cells with people they don't like.

[cockneygeezer2009]

Otherwise fights and murders take place.