Amen to that.

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Re: DJ

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David's defense of Muslims is a vanity project and not based on any ethical principles.

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Milk Tray Man
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Re: Amen to that.

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David, whether or not muslims have affected my everyday life directly is irrelevant.

Football hooligans have not affected my everyday life directly but that doesn't mean that they are not a problem to wider society. I have no truck with ordinary Muslims, but I do have a problem with the extremist elements and those who try to force other people into their way of thinking or impose their own beliefs / standards / morals / lifestyle or whatever on other people.

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Re: DJ

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This is ignorant bilge.

The ethical principle on which my views are based is that it is wrong to tar all Muslims with the same brush based on the bad actions of a few and then use that to come up with Cunty's view of "too many Muslims in the country"
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Milk Tray Man

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"David, whether or not muslims have affected my everyday life directly is irrelevant"

It is completely 100% relevant. I an trying to understand if your views are based on personal experience in your own life or whether they are based entirely on what you hear in the media.

From your answer you appear to have had no detrimental personal experience whatsoever with Muslims but base your view entirely on media stories.

Given you have no problems with "ordinary Muslims" presumably then you must deplore Cunty's views that there are too many Muslims in the UK?
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Re: Milk Tray Man

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David Johnson wrote:

> Given you have no problems with "ordinary Muslims" presumably
> then you must deplore Cunty's views that there are too many
> Muslims in the UK?


Like I said, I have no problem with ordinary law-abiding muslims. I do however have a problem with violent extremists and those who try to force their views and beliefs and lifestyles on others.

as far as I'm concerned, 1 is too many of the latter. I don't really know how much clearer I can be.

Is 1 of the latter too many for you as well David, or are you happy to tolerate them?

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Re: Milk Tray Man

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Your answer is not clear at all.

To repeat I asked you " Given you have no problems with "ordinary Muslims" presumably
> then you must deplore Cunty's views that there are too many
> Muslims in the UK?"

Cunty was talking about Muslims in general, not about extremist Muslims e.g. "Too many here now and breeding like rabbits"

Do you agree with him that there are too many Muslims in the country breeding like rabbits?
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Yes or no

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A simple Yes or No in response to Cunty's remark.
Milk Tray Man
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Re: Yes or no

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David Johnson wrote:

> Your answer is not clear at all.


Hands up anyone else who think that my answer isn't clear. David seems to be struggling.

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Milk Tray Man

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You are not a Tory or Labour politician are you? Unable to give a simple Yes or No answer?

Okay so you think Cunty is talking nonsense in his comments about ordinary Muslims.

And your own views on the topic are totally based on what you read or watch rather than any experience you have had..

Let's hope the press is telling the whole story then, eh?
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Re: Yes or no

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Doesn't matter how clear you are.

This is not about Muslims now. It's about David.

Vanity project.

[i]I used to spend a lot of time criticizing Islam on here in the noughties - but things are much better now.[/i]
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