Boko Haram

[David Johnson]

You seem to be getting braver, Samuel. Before long you may even have the courage to debate with me.

1. First you refuse to debate the effectiveness of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars unless I agree with your view that the Iraq invasion was legal. Because I refuse to agree with you, Slater, you refuse to discuss the matter.

2. Slater's view on Hillsborough remembrance
""Sounds harsh, but unless you're over 30, you'll not remember anything about that day."

My reply

" Yeah lets forget about all this Remembrance Day shite. World War 2 who gives a fuck. 96 people who got smeared by the police and the Sun, give it a fucking rest. Move on. Eh?"

Slater's response "Oh fuck off, David. Stop trying to paint me as one of Argie's ilk...... But it was a long time ago and happened quite a way from where I live. "

3. Well Samuel, Nigeria is quite a distance and I know there is no-one more bloodthirsty and warlike than you for wanting to send British troops to kill Muslims, inevitably both innocent and guilty.

3. If you have the guts, and I somehow doubt it, to have a serious debate with me on the topic rather than hide under your computer table, insisting you will not have that debate unless I agree with you, please be my guest. However, your track record does not encourage respect in this matter.

I await a meaningful response. Let's see if you pass the test.

[Cuntybollocks]

And one for you David.

Q: Should we stop the rape and murder of innocent children by ANY means

A: Y-S
B: N-

Fill the blanks for me bud.

[David Johnson]

Define "we" Define the means.

Any means could include for example, dropping a tactical nuclear weapon on the Boko Haram camp. I would be against that.

Answer that and I will answer your question.

[Cuntybollocks]

Fuck off mate, you have lost the respect of most of the people on here with that crap.

Tit.

[Sam Slater]

As you can see, I make a thread about a serious topic and David uses it to provoke me into debating with him.

This isn't about African children for him. It's about his own narcissism. He really thinks we're all here at his beck and call.

[David Johnson]

Okay, despite your pathetic insult which I find ludicrous, I will take a short time to explain.

1. It is a given that people who abduct and cause pain and horror to innocent children of whatever religion are the lowest of the low. It disgusts me not only the lifetime's impact on the children concerned but also the unimaginable grief it causes their parents.

2. A feeling of anger and hatred at these actions is understandable. However, it is far too easy to come up with empty statements like Slater's Boko Haram must be stopped. Of course they must be stopped, this is a statement of the bleeding obvious or your "we must stop the rape of children by any means"

3. If David Cameron moved a motion to intervene in the House of Commons to "stop the rape of children by any means" in Nigeria what would the reaction be?. It would be as follows "well, what means are you going to use. Full scale land invasion? SAS deployment? Aerial bombardment? He would be torn to shreds for not having a plan.

4. Why is having a plan so important? Because by the law of unintended consequences, without a plan you can cause disaster e.g. a botched rescue attempt could result in the death of all the children and more. That was the mistake in Iraq there was no plan as to what to do after the fall of Hussein. The result was that far more innocent people, men, women and children have died after the Iraq war as a result of Blair and Bush's illegal actions than those who were saved by the invasion.

5. That is why I ask you what the plan is.

There you go, like Slater you refuse to answer my questions and deal purely in moral indignation without any real thought about what the solution is to the horrible situation you describe.

If only life was as simple as you seem to think.

[David Johnson]

Okay, I will take that as a no from you, Slater. You are not prepared to have a sensible, reasoned debate. Instead you pathetically spew insults via a third party in this case, Cuntybollocks.

Are you ever going to man up? You can make a start by responding to my demolition of your attack on baby boomers here



If you are not up to it. Just say so.

[Sam Slater]

So, one of the Boko Haram leaders have confirmed the abduction (or enslavement if you prefer) of up to 270 girls.

Saying things like, "I will sell them in the market, by Allah. I will sell them off and marry them off. There is a market for selling humans.", and, "Women are slaves. I want to reassure my Muslim brothers that Allah says slaves are permitted in Islam."



So, Nick Cohen's point before this admission was spot on. It's letting them off the hook to call this an 'abduction'. It's slavery and selling females like livestock.

But don't make the mistake of thinking all Muslims think this way. They don't, obviously. I would like to think moderate Muslims ought to speak out a bit more on this, though. I mean, they take to the streets in Pakistan when an American kid flushes a Koran down the toilet. They riot in Iran and North Africa over a short video on Blasphemy and kill people and burn down embassies over a few Danish cartoons......but on the enslavement of schoolgirls or murder of schoolboys? No riots for them. No banners or flag burning now. Just silence. Is it because lots of Muslims worldwide care more about cartoons than murder; do they get more enraged by a western video clip than child slavery and rape?

One needs to ask these questions.

Oh....and another 8 have been taken today: . Only 8 mind. You don't want to flood the market with ripe virgins as the price will plummet.

[David Johnson]

You make a good job of describing the problem.

What is the solution to the problem in the case of this abduction in Nigeria and the rise of Boko Haram in general?

[Arginald Valleywater]

These cunts need a visit from some NATO or Israeli special forces. Facing a painful death from a Sayarat or SAS soldier might give them a real insght into how much influence praying to Allah has on their lives.