Apparently a United Nations investigator produced a report on the housing situation in the UK.
It's main findings were "lack of investment over decades meant Britain faces a crisis of housing affordability and availability. It called for increased protections for tenants in the private rented sector and for welfare reforms e.g. the bedroom tax to be re-assessed to ensure they do not impact disproportionately on vulnerable individuals"
Now the above seems pretty sensible I would have thought to all those interested in buying a house for the first time or trying to afford to do a job in the south east, particularly, whilst renting. And if you were faced with losing a spare room so your kids could not visit, you might well be pleased about a request for a "re-assessment".
And the government's reaction? Housing minister Kris Hopkins said "This partisan report is completely discredited and it is disappointing that the UN has allowed itself to be associated with a misleading Marxist diatribe."
Jeez, "Marxist diatribe" - when did the Tories get taken over by the American Tea Party?
Extreme right wing government?
Re: Extreme right wing government?
Miss Rolnik visited Britain last year as the UN's 'special rapporteur' on housing, prompting a storm of controversy.
At the end of her trip she voiced concern about housing benefit cuts, saying that she was 'shocked to hear how many people feel abused in their human rights'.
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Since when was having a spare room a human right?
And...
Yesterday the UN's high commission for human rights, which is responsible for Miss Rolnik, insisted that it had no knowledge of her final report.
Seems the UN thinks that she's fruitloop as well...
At the end of her trip she voiced concern about housing benefit cuts, saying that she was 'shocked to hear how many people feel abused in their human rights'.
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Since when was having a spare room a human right?
And...
Yesterday the UN's high commission for human rights, which is responsible for Miss Rolnik, insisted that it had no knowledge of her final report.
Seems the UN thinks that she's fruitloop as well...
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cockneygeezer2009
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Re: Extreme right wing government?
If you think this lot is extreme, how much worse would it have been if they hadn't been in a coalition.
God help us if the next coalition is the Tories and UKIP. All the poor will die off, all immigrants will be booted out and we'll only be left with the rich. There'll be plenty of houses to go around when that happens.
God help us if the next coalition is the Tories and UKIP. All the poor will die off, all immigrants will be booted out and we'll only be left with the rich. There'll be plenty of houses to go around when that happens.
The harder you cum. The more you enjoy it.
Re: Extreme right wing government?
I've got to agree with you cockney and I'm scared that the Tories will get in next year due to the 24/7 rewriting of past events and of the present.
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David Johnson
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Essex Lad
As usual this is another of your stupid posts made without any obvious thought behind it.
"lack of investment over decades meant Britain faces a crisis of housing affordability and availability."
Is this Marxist? No. Eminently true, I would have thought.
"It called for increased protections for tenants in the private rented sector"
Is this Marxist? No. The huge increase in housing benefit is largely down to two factors, the first point above and the fact that landlords can charge whatever they can get away with. There are controls on the charges that can be made for train fares, for example and in many Western Europe countries they have rent controls. Is this Marxist, obviously not.
As for the bedroom tax, Rolnik is simply asking for a "re-assessment". Why, because there are a huge number of anomalies such as disabled people who live in specially adapted flats, having to pay extra for a spare room used to store pulleys, hoists, wheelchairs etc. Secondly it isn't as if there are smaller places for people to move in. Many of the people who move are finding themselves in much more expensive privately rented accommodation.
Is it Marxist to ask for a "reassessment" Obviously not.
"Yesterday the UN's high commission for human rights, which is responsible for Miss Rolnik, insisted that it had no knowledge of her final report."
Her report is to be discussed with the Human Rights Council in New York on 10 March.
"lack of investment over decades meant Britain faces a crisis of housing affordability and availability."
Is this Marxist? No. Eminently true, I would have thought.
"It called for increased protections for tenants in the private rented sector"
Is this Marxist? No. The huge increase in housing benefit is largely down to two factors, the first point above and the fact that landlords can charge whatever they can get away with. There are controls on the charges that can be made for train fares, for example and in many Western Europe countries they have rent controls. Is this Marxist, obviously not.
As for the bedroom tax, Rolnik is simply asking for a "re-assessment". Why, because there are a huge number of anomalies such as disabled people who live in specially adapted flats, having to pay extra for a spare room used to store pulleys, hoists, wheelchairs etc. Secondly it isn't as if there are smaller places for people to move in. Many of the people who move are finding themselves in much more expensive privately rented accommodation.
Is it Marxist to ask for a "reassessment" Obviously not.
"Yesterday the UN's high commission for human rights, which is responsible for Miss Rolnik, insisted that it had no knowledge of her final report."
Her report is to be discussed with the Human Rights Council in New York on 10 March.
Re: Essex Lad
David Johnson wrote:
> As usual this is another of your stupid posts made without any
> obvious thought behind it.
>
> "lack of investment over decades meant Britain faces a crisis
> of housing affordability and availability."
>
> Is this Marxist? No. Eminently true, I would have thought.
And your own party is just as much to blame as the Tories.
>
> "It called for increased protections for tenants in the private
> rented sector"
>
> Is this Marxist? No. The huge increase in housing benefit is
> largely down to two factors, the first point above and the fact
> that landlords can charge whatever they can get away with.
> There are controls on the charges that can be made for train
> fares, for example and in many Western Europe countries they
> have rent controls. Is this Marxist, obviously not.
Landlords cannot charge whatever they want. They can only charge what the markets will stand as can almost any private company. The government has introduced a cap on housing benefits and if someone has a house/flat and they decide they want to charge ?10,000 a week, do you think that they will be able to find a tenant?
>
> As for the bedroom tax, Rolnik is simply asking for a
> "re-assessment". Why, because there are a huge number of
> anomalies such as disabled people who live in specially adapted
> flats, having to pay extra for a spare room used to store
> pulleys, hoists, wheelchairs etc. Secondly it isn't as if
> there are smaller places for people to move in. Many of the
> people who move are finding themselves in much more expensive
> privately rented accommodation.
Perhaps Rolnik should get her own house in order before telling us what to do. Brazil is hardly a role model for domestic bliss, shanty towns perhaps...
>
> Is it Marxist to ask for a "reassessment" Obviously not.
>
> "Yesterday the UN's high commission for human rights, which is
> responsible for Miss Rolnik, insisted that it had no knowledge
> of her final report."
>
> Her report is to be discussed with the Human Rights Council in
> New York on 10 March.
Let's see if it is, shall we?
> As usual this is another of your stupid posts made without any
> obvious thought behind it.
>
> "lack of investment over decades meant Britain faces a crisis
> of housing affordability and availability."
>
> Is this Marxist? No. Eminently true, I would have thought.
And your own party is just as much to blame as the Tories.
>
> "It called for increased protections for tenants in the private
> rented sector"
>
> Is this Marxist? No. The huge increase in housing benefit is
> largely down to two factors, the first point above and the fact
> that landlords can charge whatever they can get away with.
> There are controls on the charges that can be made for train
> fares, for example and in many Western Europe countries they
> have rent controls. Is this Marxist, obviously not.
Landlords cannot charge whatever they want. They can only charge what the markets will stand as can almost any private company. The government has introduced a cap on housing benefits and if someone has a house/flat and they decide they want to charge ?10,000 a week, do you think that they will be able to find a tenant?
>
> As for the bedroom tax, Rolnik is simply asking for a
> "re-assessment". Why, because there are a huge number of
> anomalies such as disabled people who live in specially adapted
> flats, having to pay extra for a spare room used to store
> pulleys, hoists, wheelchairs etc. Secondly it isn't as if
> there are smaller places for people to move in. Many of the
> people who move are finding themselves in much more expensive
> privately rented accommodation.
Perhaps Rolnik should get her own house in order before telling us what to do. Brazil is hardly a role model for domestic bliss, shanty towns perhaps...
>
> Is it Marxist to ask for a "reassessment" Obviously not.
>
> "Yesterday the UN's high commission for human rights, which is
> responsible for Miss Rolnik, insisted that it had no knowledge
> of her final report."
>
> Her report is to be discussed with the Human Rights Council in
> New York on 10 March.
Let's see if it is, shall we?
Re: Extreme right wing government?
cockneygeezer2009 wrote:
> If you think this lot is extreme, how much worse would it have
> been if they hadn't been in a coalition.
>
> God help us if the next coalition is the Tories and UKIP.
It won't be. More likely it will be Labour and Liberal Democrats.
All
> the poor will die off, all immigrants will be booted out and
> we'll only be left with the rich. There'll be plenty of houses
> to go around when that happens.
>
The poor will die off as indeed will the rich. As long as we remain in the EU, immigrants will not be booted out.
> If you think this lot is extreme, how much worse would it have
> been if they hadn't been in a coalition.
>
> God help us if the next coalition is the Tories and UKIP.
It won't be. More likely it will be Labour and Liberal Democrats.
All
> the poor will die off, all immigrants will be booted out and
> we'll only be left with the rich. There'll be plenty of houses
> to go around when that happens.
>
The poor will die off as indeed will the rich. As long as we remain in the EU, immigrants will not be booted out.
Re: Extreme right wing government?
Gentleman wrote:
> I've got to agree with you cockney and I'm scared that the
> Tories will get in next year due to the 24/7 rewriting of past
> events and of the present.
Few examples?
> I've got to agree with you cockney and I'm scared that the
> Tories will get in next year due to the 24/7 rewriting of past
> events and of the present.
Few examples?
Re: Extreme right wing government?
Off the top of my head the classic labour were to blame for the global economic crash, all those evil benefit claimants are to blame as well... Apart from pensioners they're ok cos they're more likely to vote.
We are also in the worrying situation were traditionally there would be 2 opposition parties to hold the government of the day to account and now have the equivalent of quisling working with the nazis.
We are also in the worrying situation were traditionally there would be 2 opposition parties to hold the government of the day to account and now have the equivalent of quisling working with the nazis.
Re: Extreme right wing government?
Gentleman wrote:
> Off the top of my head the classic labour were to blame for the
> global economic crash, all those evil benefit claimants are to
> blame as well... Apart from pensioners they're ok cos they're
> more likely to vote.
You don't think Gordon Brown's profligate spending was in any way to blame for the mess we are in? It wasn't the main reason, but it didn't help. If Labour were in power they, too, would be doing something about the welfare benefit situation. To say they would have carried on spending is naive.
>
> We are also in the worrying situation were traditionally there
> would be 2 opposition parties to hold the government of the day
> to account and now have the equivalent of quisling working with
> the nazis.
Not true. There is only ever one opposition party. Ed Miliband is the leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, a position held before him by David Cameron. The Liberal Democrats, Scot Nats, Ulster Unionists etc may not be/have been in government but they are not the opposition. You don't really think when he was in power Tony Blair or before him John Major or Margaret Thatcher really cared what the Liberals thought about anything?
> Off the top of my head the classic labour were to blame for the
> global economic crash, all those evil benefit claimants are to
> blame as well... Apart from pensioners they're ok cos they're
> more likely to vote.
You don't think Gordon Brown's profligate spending was in any way to blame for the mess we are in? It wasn't the main reason, but it didn't help. If Labour were in power they, too, would be doing something about the welfare benefit situation. To say they would have carried on spending is naive.
>
> We are also in the worrying situation were traditionally there
> would be 2 opposition parties to hold the government of the day
> to account and now have the equivalent of quisling working with
> the nazis.
Not true. There is only ever one opposition party. Ed Miliband is the leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, a position held before him by David Cameron. The Liberal Democrats, Scot Nats, Ulster Unionists etc may not be/have been in government but they are not the opposition. You don't really think when he was in power Tony Blair or before him John Major or Margaret Thatcher really cared what the Liberals thought about anything?