May Voting day , R. U ?

[David Johnson]

Maybe you would get better feedback to your posts if you put the post through Google Translate to make it easier to read?

Err, are you one of those immigrants Nigel Farage keeps going on about?

[Arginald Valleywater]

Dear Retards, I do not work in the public sector. Our company pension is funded by the staff (9% of gross salary)and the company, a charity. It costs the tax payer nothing. Get your facts right.

[andy at handiwork]

Charities are exempt from a range of taxes, not in itself a bad thing if the charity is kosher, but the rest of us do have to make up the shortfall.

[David Johnson]

Ah Argie, I remember Rodders was ashamed of being a public sector worker having been part of the armed forces.



"Although independent they are regulated by the state and commonly receive public funding."

"They increased in importance over the last decades of the twentieth century due to changes to council housing brought in by the Thatcher government, when rules were introduced that prevented councils subsidising their housing from local taxes, channelled grants for construction of new social housing to housing associations and allowed council tenants to buy their homes at a large discount"

"Housing associations are generally considered as private entities in that they are not owned or directly controlled by the state. This status, however, has been challenged by a number of legal rulings in the last few years. In 2004 the British government accepted an EU ruling that considered housing associations as public bodies for the purposes of procurement.

More recently, the UK High Court in Weaver v. London and Quadrant Housing Trust [2008] has ruled that housing associations were public authorities and as a result could be subject to judicial review in certain circumstances The court stated that the housing association sector was 'permeated by state control and influence with a view to meeting the Government's aims for affordable housing, and in which RSLs work side by side with, and can in a very real sense be said to take the place of, local authorities'.

This issue has wider political significance since housing associations borrowing (which stood at approximately ?30 billion in 2006) oes not currently contribute to the UK's public sector borrowing requirement, the control of which is both a stated government objective and part of the EU's criteria for membership of the European single currency."

No need to be ashamed Argie. I am all in favour of public sector businesses.

[David Johnson]

"In England, housing associations are funded and regulated by the Homes and Communities Agency (HCA), except that from April 2012 funding in London comes under the Greater London Authority. The HCA's predecessor until 2008 was the Housing Corporation. The Housing Corporation's regulatory role was split out to a separate body from 2010, the Tenant Services Authority (TSA), but merged again into the HCA from April 2012."

"Subsidies for new homes (often termed 'social housing grant') amount to sizeable public investments. In its 2008?11 Prospectus, the Housing Corporation stated that in the three-year period to 2011 subsidy would be "at least ?8 billion". The majority of this would go to housing associations for use in development projects. Since 2003, in an effort to seek greater value for money, much of the funding by the Housing Corporation for new house building has been channelled to fewer than 80 "developing housing associations" that have achieved "partner status" through Partner Programme Agreements.

[David Johnson]

Looks like your gold plated salary and final salary pension are the firing line.



But as the government would put it, how can it be fair?

"A lot of families stuck on housing lists ( you know, Argie, the people you despise) will be outraged at the massive salaries. While they are technically arms-length from the state, these housing associations get huge amounts of taxpayers' money and should be held to account."


Out of the frying pan (voting Tory) into the fire (voting Nige).

[David Johnson]

"If care to remember back in December .
I posted a comment, YOU THEN said You would keep your distance.
YOU have crossed the line,
You should not have taken an interest in this post ."

"You should not have taken an interest in this post". Who are you then, the Thought Police?

Let's check the honesty of the above comments now then....

"Yet again the Fucking Experts , don't actually answer what the poster asked . ME but takes a swerve to try show How much they know ,

small fish in a small pond ( & and the pond is drying up) so a very boring cunt . Oh I'm so clever You just don't know as much as I'm telling you , oh and by the way , I think I'm always right. , Wonder who this applies too.... no need for thee guesses , Only one is necessary...."

Mmm. wonder who that's about?

Pot kettle black?