frankthring wrote:
One
> would have thought people writing on a porn forum like this
> one would be
> slavering at the mouth at the thought of all that tanned
> pussy you might
> soon get to fuck....
I'm guessing that most people who fuck tanned pussy probably do not spend too much time posting on forums, porn or otherwise.
trying to stop the Roumanian's coming!
Re: Essex Lad
David Johnson wrote:
> "Presumably though at least some of those 15% have paid into
> the system whereas I doubt many if any of the 6% have put
> anything in."
>
> Err. you just appear to be guessing here. A bit like the
> Labour government's idiotic guess about how many Poles would
> come here.
Of course I am guessing but it is about as accurate as the daft 22,000 figure the ONS quotes.
>
> "There is the added difficulty in that although many immigrants
> who come here from eastern Europe do indeed work hard and do
> not claim benefits, they do not spend the money they earn in
> the UK but send it back home to their families."
>
> Clearly they do spend money here, notwithstanding taxes etc.
> Accommodation, transport, food, entertainment etc. etc.
> Obviously like a lot of foreigners working in another country
> with a higher standard of living many try to save what they can
> from their wage because they suspect they will go home at some
> point and want some dosh to show for it. British expats
> working overseas are just the same, particularly the ones
> working in the oil rich Gulf States.
Point taken although most Britons working in the Gulf don't pay taxes, which is why they are working there in the first place. I would guess (that word again) that most don't bunk up six to a room with their friends or sleep in public toilets as some (not all) eastern Europeans have been doing over here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... t-20p.html
20p isn't much on accommodation.
> "Presumably though at least some of those 15% have paid into
> the system whereas I doubt many if any of the 6% have put
> anything in."
>
> Err. you just appear to be guessing here. A bit like the
> Labour government's idiotic guess about how many Poles would
> come here.
Of course I am guessing but it is about as accurate as the daft 22,000 figure the ONS quotes.
>
> "There is the added difficulty in that although many immigrants
> who come here from eastern Europe do indeed work hard and do
> not claim benefits, they do not spend the money they earn in
> the UK but send it back home to their families."
>
> Clearly they do spend money here, notwithstanding taxes etc.
> Accommodation, transport, food, entertainment etc. etc.
> Obviously like a lot of foreigners working in another country
> with a higher standard of living many try to save what they can
> from their wage because they suspect they will go home at some
> point and want some dosh to show for it. British expats
> working overseas are just the same, particularly the ones
> working in the oil rich Gulf States.
Point taken although most Britons working in the Gulf don't pay taxes, which is why they are working there in the first place. I would guess (that word again) that most don't bunk up six to a room with their friends or sleep in public toilets as some (not all) eastern Europeans have been doing over here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... t-20p.html
20p isn't much on accommodation.
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David Johnson
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Re: Essex Lad
"Of course I am guessing but it is about as accurate as the daft 22,000 figure the ONS quotes".
If I had to choose between your guess based on nothing much in particular and a figure from the Office of National Statistics, I have no doubt who I would choose.
I would guess (that word again) that most don't bunk up six to a room with their friends or sleep in public toilets as some (not all) eastern Europeans have been doing over here."
You make a statement of the bleeding obvious given that the British expats tend to be doing well paid jobs in the oil and IT industries in the Gulf whereas many Eastern Europeans are doing very poorly paid jobs. The underlying principle though of trying to save money to bring back with your still applies.
I will leave you to carry on guessing.
If I had to choose between your guess based on nothing much in particular and a figure from the Office of National Statistics, I have no doubt who I would choose.
I would guess (that word again) that most don't bunk up six to a room with their friends or sleep in public toilets as some (not all) eastern Europeans have been doing over here."
You make a statement of the bleeding obvious given that the British expats tend to be doing well paid jobs in the oil and IT industries in the Gulf whereas many Eastern Europeans are doing very poorly paid jobs. The underlying principle though of trying to save money to bring back with your still applies.
I will leave you to carry on guessing.
Re: Essex Lad
David Johnson wrote:
> "Of course I am guessing but it is about as accurate as the
> daft 22,000 figure the ONS quotes".
>
> If I had to choose between your guess based on nothing much in
> particular and a figure from the Office of National Statistics,
> I have no doubt who I would choose.
There are lies, damned lies and government statistics.
Are you seriously telling me that you believe of all 200,000 or so Poles who came over here, only a tenth are still here?
>
> I would guess (that word again) that most don't bunk up six to
> a room with their friends or sleep in public toilets as some
> (not all) eastern Europeans have been doing over here."
>
> You make a statement of the bleeding obvious given that the
> British expats tend to be doing well paid jobs in the oil and
> IT industries in the Gulf whereas many Eastern Europeans are
> doing very poorly paid jobs. The underlying principle though
> of trying to save money to bring back with your still applies.
>
What I find most distressing about Labour's open door policy is that the people who suffered most an continue to suffer are the working class, the very people that Labour is supposed to help. But no doubt you will provide a raft of statistics saying the influx of eastern Europeans has helped the working classes...
> "Of course I am guessing but it is about as accurate as the
> daft 22,000 figure the ONS quotes".
>
> If I had to choose between your guess based on nothing much in
> particular and a figure from the Office of National Statistics,
> I have no doubt who I would choose.
There are lies, damned lies and government statistics.
Are you seriously telling me that you believe of all 200,000 or so Poles who came over here, only a tenth are still here?
>
> I would guess (that word again) that most don't bunk up six to
> a room with their friends or sleep in public toilets as some
> (not all) eastern Europeans have been doing over here."
>
> You make a statement of the bleeding obvious given that the
> British expats tend to be doing well paid jobs in the oil and
> IT industries in the Gulf whereas many Eastern Europeans are
> doing very poorly paid jobs. The underlying principle though
> of trying to save money to bring back with your still applies.
>
What I find most distressing about Labour's open door policy is that the people who suffered most an continue to suffer are the working class, the very people that Labour is supposed to help. But no doubt you will provide a raft of statistics saying the influx of eastern Europeans has helped the working classes...
Re: trying to stop the Romanian's coming!
Another question no one seems to be asking is how many British people are working cash in hand. Not paying taxes and nor are their companies. I know it's not the big corporate companies dodging corporation taxes but still the same offense.
Re: trying to stop the Romanian's coming!
Which rather makes the point we have enough criminals/workshy layabouts of our own, why import them?
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David Johnson
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Re: Essex Lad
"There are lies, damned lies and government statistics."
More statements of the bleeding obvious.
"Are you seriously telling me that you believe of all 200,000 or so Poles who came over here, only a tenth are still here?"
Obviously not. Pay attention. What I am saying is that I am more willing to believe a figure from the ONS than a guess from someone who appears to struggle to follow basic points being made.
"What I find most distressing about Labour's open door policy is that the people who suffered most an continue to suffer are the working class, the very people that Labour is supposed to help. But no doubt you will provide a raft of statistics saying the influx of eastern Europeans has helped the working classes.."
Again a complete failure on your part to pay attention. If you had bothered to search the forum you will find that I have stated on many occasions that it was very stupid of Labour to not setup up transitional arrangements for the Poles unlike most of Europe.
Secondly if you had bothered to read this thread properly you would see that my statement, "Err. you just appear to be guessing here. A bit like the Labour government's idiotic guess about how many Poles would come here" implies that I was not in favour of the approach taken.
I will bail out of this now. I do not want to spend my time correcting your posts.
More statements of the bleeding obvious.
"Are you seriously telling me that you believe of all 200,000 or so Poles who came over here, only a tenth are still here?"
Obviously not. Pay attention. What I am saying is that I am more willing to believe a figure from the ONS than a guess from someone who appears to struggle to follow basic points being made.
"What I find most distressing about Labour's open door policy is that the people who suffered most an continue to suffer are the working class, the very people that Labour is supposed to help. But no doubt you will provide a raft of statistics saying the influx of eastern Europeans has helped the working classes.."
Again a complete failure on your part to pay attention. If you had bothered to search the forum you will find that I have stated on many occasions that it was very stupid of Labour to not setup up transitional arrangements for the Poles unlike most of Europe.
Secondly if you had bothered to read this thread properly you would see that my statement, "Err. you just appear to be guessing here. A bit like the Labour government's idiotic guess about how many Poles would come here" implies that I was not in favour of the approach taken.
I will bail out of this now. I do not want to spend my time correcting your posts.
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Arginald Valleywater
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Re: Essex Lad
Poles have a serious work ethic. My neighbour is Polish, a graduate and works hard. He is staying here and paying taxes. I cannot see the same happening with Romanians and Bulgarians. Their major exports are scamming, drugs, people smuggling and prostitution. They also have a taste for blood if anyone crosses them. I hope a few turn up in Blackpool where DJ will welcome them with open arms.....
DJ bows out - beaten and bloodied again...
David Johnson wrote:
> "There are lies, damned lies and government statistics."
>
> More statements of the bleeding obvious.
>
> "Are you seriously telling me that you believe of all 200,000
> or so Poles who came over here, only a tenth are still here?"
>
> Obviously not. Pay attention. What I am saying is that I am
> more willing to believe a figure from the ONS than a guess from
> someone who appears to struggle to follow basic points being
> made.
Then you're naive.
>
> "What I find most distressing about Labour's open door policy
> is that the people who suffered most an continue to suffer are
> the working class, the very people that Labour is supposed to
> help. But no doubt you will provide a raft of statistics saying
> the influx of eastern Europeans has helped the working
> classes.."
>
> Again a complete failure on your part to pay attention. If you
> had bothered to search the forum you will find that I have
> stated on many occasions that it was very stupid of Labour to
> not setup up transitional arrangements for the Poles unlike
> most of Europe.
>
Why should I search the forum? If I am reading a newspaper story I look at what is in front of me, I don't start searching archives for what they may have said days/weeks/months/before. I base my views on what is written in a particular thread not an accumulation of several different posts.
> "There are lies, damned lies and government statistics."
>
> More statements of the bleeding obvious.
>
> "Are you seriously telling me that you believe of all 200,000
> or so Poles who came over here, only a tenth are still here?"
>
> Obviously not. Pay attention. What I am saying is that I am
> more willing to believe a figure from the ONS than a guess from
> someone who appears to struggle to follow basic points being
> made.
Then you're naive.
>
> "What I find most distressing about Labour's open door policy
> is that the people who suffered most an continue to suffer are
> the working class, the very people that Labour is supposed to
> help. But no doubt you will provide a raft of statistics saying
> the influx of eastern Europeans has helped the working
> classes.."
>
> Again a complete failure on your part to pay attention. If you
> had bothered to search the forum you will find that I have
> stated on many occasions that it was very stupid of Labour to
> not setup up transitional arrangements for the Poles unlike
> most of Europe.
>
Why should I search the forum? If I am reading a newspaper story I look at what is in front of me, I don't start searching archives for what they may have said days/weeks/months/before. I base my views on what is written in a particular thread not an accumulation of several different posts.