Alex Salmond - it's in the bag...

[max_tranmere]

"Scotland does have a Government you muppet."

You don't seem to be be up on the facts. Scotland does not have a Government, Britain does, and within Britain certain principalities have devolved Assemblies. The person who ultimately runs Scotland is the Prime Minister in Downing Street, not the First Minister at Holyrood. Alex Salmond pioneering and pushing the term 'The Scottish Government', and getting politicans around the world to use it, and the media in Britain and internationally using it too, was one hell of an achievement of his. I honestly don't know how he pulled it off.

[Cuntybollocks]

I live here mate. I think i might know a wee bit more that some simpleton (your good self) in London.

Lets take the Welsh, they have an "assembly", they don't have much say in the running of their own country.

Scotland has a Government because we are allowed to "govern" ourselves. We can create our own laws, run our NHS differently ect ect.

I hope this helps put to bed your silly and somewhat childish view that Alex Salmond "makes" people do it.

[max_tranmere]

You would agree that Westminster is ultimately in charge of Scotland, surely. Just like it is England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Certain powers are devolved down to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but all of Britain is under one Government, ultimately, at that is Westminster. Whether that is right or wrong is beside the point, what counts in this discussion is that that is the reality. Scotland has more powers devolved down to it than Wales does but Scotland is run by Westminster, just like all of Britain is. What do you think the Scottish Office in Whitehall, and the Scottish Secretary who runs that department, does? All of the money and the top decision making for Britain happens in London.

[David Johnson]

The use of the term "government" in this discussion adds confusion rather than clarity. So let's clear up what can and cannot be done.

"Lets take the Welsh, they have an "assembly", they don't have much say in the running of their own country.

This is bollocks.

The National Assembly for Wales has the competence to pass bills for Acts of the Assembly in 20 "Subjects" outlined in schedule 7 of the Government of Wales Act 2006.

Those subjects are:
Agriculture, fisheries, forestry and rural development
Ancient monuments and historic buildings
Culture
Economic development
Education and training
Environment
Fire and rescue services and promotion of fire safety
Food
Health and health services
Highways and transport
Housing
Local government
Public administration
Social welfare
Sport and recreation
Tourism
Town and country planning
Water and flood defence
Welsh language

"Scotland has a Government because we are allowed to "govern" ourselves. We can create our own laws, run our NHS differently ect ect"

What Scotland can and cannot do itself.

The Scotland Act 1998, which was passed by the Parliament of the United Kingdom and given Royal Assent by Queen Elizabeth II on 19 November 1998,[ governs the functions and role of the Scottish Parliament and delimits its legislative competence. The Scotland Act 2012 extends the devolved competencies. For the purposes of parliamentary sovereignty, the Parliament of the United Kingdom at Westminster continues to constitute the supreme legislature of Scotland, however, under the terms of the Scotland Act, Westminster agreed to devolve some of its responsibilities over the domestic policy of Scotland to a new directly elected Scottish Parliament. Such matters are known as "devolved matters" and include education, health, agriculture and justice. The Scotland Act enabled the Scottish Parliament to pass primary legislation on these issues. A degree of domestic authority, and all foreign policy, remain with the UK Parliament in Westminster. The Scottish Parliament has the power to pass laws and has limited tax-varying capability. Another of the roles of the Parliament is to hold the Scottish Government to account.

The specific devolved matters are all subjects which are not explicitly stated in Schedule 5 to the Scotland Act as reserved matters. All matters that are not specifically reserved are automatically devolved to the Scottish Parliament. Most importantly, this includes agriculture, fisheries and forestry, economic development, education, environment, food standards, health, home affairs, Scots law ? courts, police and fire services, local government, sport and the arts, transport, training, tourism, research and statistics and social work The Scottish Parliament has the ability to alter income tax in Scotland by up to 3 pence in the pound. The 2012 Act conferred further fiscal devolution including borrowing powers and some other unconnected matters such as setting speed limits and control of air guns.

The Scottish Parliament is unable to legislate on such issues that are reserved to, and dealt with at, Westminster (and where Ministerial functions usually lie with UK Government ministers). These include abortion, broadcasting policy, civil service, common markets for UK goods and services, constitution, electricity, coal, oil, gas, nuclear energy, defence and national security, drug policy, employment, foreign policy and relations with Europe, most aspects of transport safety and regulation, National Lottery, protection of borders, social security and stability of UK's fiscal, economic and monetary system.




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[JamesW]

max_tranmere wrote:

> You don't seem to be be up on the facts. Scotland does not have
> a Government


Even though max claims it doesn't exist the Scottish Government has a website.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk

[Cuntybollocks]

Ok then, i will rephrase it.

Scotland has more say in it's affairs than Wales.

I was trying to keep things simple for Max. You pedantic arse.

[Cuntybollocks]

I won't agree with anything you say sir, you are a buffoon of the highest order.

[David Johnson]

No, you were talking bollocks about Wales.

I put you right.

Get over it.

[Cuntybollocks]

!laugh!

Get over yourself !!!!!!!!1

[Cuntybollocks]

You really do see yourself as some sort of authority on this forum don't you geezer?

You come over as a cocky twat, and judging by the comments of people on here you are not liked that much. You strike me as a wee bloke in a shit town (Blackpool i believe) with little or no financial and/or personal success who's only way of feeling superior is to throw your weight around on a porn forum.

Please tell me i'm wrong?