British to storm Equador embassy.

[mrchapel]

Yeah lets not forget a lot of people paid his bail thinking he was gonna fight the charges and then he ran off to to hide behind a country with apalling human rights.
You think Equador gives a shit about truth coming out? The think this is great pissing off America.
Fuck Assange and fuck that other cunt McKinnon too. "I hacked the US defense net, compromised their security and lives then left a message mocking them........ I mean I`ve got assburgers and have no control"

[David Johnson]

There are some who believe that the rape charges in Sweden are just trumped up charges by spooks designed to eventually deliver Assange into US hands.

I am not so sure. Previously Assange travelled all over the world. If you wanted to manufacture some charges as a prelude to getting Assange into the US I would have thought that the very last country you would choose would be Sweden which routinely appears near the top of the list with regard to respect for human rights.

It is also worth pointing out that the US does not have any charges outstanding against Assange despite Bradley Manning, the guy who provided a lot of the Wikileaks material having been arrested a long time ago.

[David Johnson]

It is also worth pointing out that if the US wanted to get their hands on Assange it would make much more sense for them to have put a request in for extradition whilst Assange was in the UK, a country with a worse human rights record than Sweden, rather than waiting until Assange gets to Sweden.

As we know the UK has a long history of rolling over to US extradition requests resulting from Blunkett's absurd act that he brought in.

[Flat_Eric]

David Johnson wrote:

> It is also worth pointing out that the US does not have any
> charges outstanding against Assange despite Bradley Manning,
> the guy who provided a lot of the Wikileaks material having
> been arrested a long time ago.

[David Johnson]

This strikes me as speculation.

The email referenced which states that there is a sealed indictment on Assange is from the Vice President of a private intelligence company, not a public announcement by a US official.

If you believe this "evidence" to be true, could you please explain to me:

1. Why is such a charge kept secret and why has the USA not brought a request for extradition to another country?

2. Why would they not bring forward such a request when Assange was on British soil and the UK has not only rolled over many times previously to American exradition requests, but also has a much poorer record on human rights than Sweden where he could well end up?

[Robches]

David:

Maybe because the Swedish extradition claim has priority, being first? He would have to be extradited to Sweden before he could be extradited to the USA, to spend the rest of his natural in an orange suit.

[tommy dickfingers]

Well said, obviously us two must be in on the conspiracy in believing assange might be guilty of something if not rape then handling stolen goods ie the information stolen from the us government by bradley manning.

[Flat_Eric]

David Johnson wrote:

> 1. Why is such a charge kept secret and why has the USA not
> brought a request for extradition to another country?

I post a link and you effectively dismiss it saying that "this strikes me as speculation" - then in the next breath you're asking me to speculate about something else!

So the answer is that I don't know David. Take it up with the U.S. State Department. I'm sure they'll be able to tell you better than I can.


> 2. Why would they not bring forward such a request when Assange
> was on British soil and the UK has not only rolled over many
> times previously to American exradition requests, but also has
> a much poorer record on human rights than Sweden where he could
> well end up?

Once again David, take it up with the Yanks. In the meantime, some more info that may be of interest:



- Eric

[David Johnson]

Bit grumpy today, Eric. Someone pissed in your cornflakes?

"I post a link and you effectively dismiss it saying that "this strikes me as speculation" - then in the next breath you're asking me to speculate about something else!"

Well given that it is a private internal email written by someone who is not part of the US government you have to take it with some suspicion rather than copper-bottomed fact, don't you? Or should you automatically accept it?

One way of trying to understand whether this is likely to be true or not is to work out the underlying logic behind keeping an arrest warrant secret in these circumstances and I can't see one which is why I asked you if you had any bright ideas.............

[David Johnson]

Possibly, but Bradley Manning, the American who provided a lot of the stuff to Wikileaks was arrested 6 months before the issue of an international arrest warrant by Sweden so the US would have had plenty of time to act first if they had wanted to.