It is 'morally wrong' to pay tradesmen cash

[jbomz3]

I've asked a few people on twitter (mainly journalists) and had no reply , can anyone remember David Camerons first remarks on the "Jimmy Carr" furore ? I do , he was in Mexico at a G20 summit and if I remember correctly he was talkin to Ed Conway of sky news , and he didn't want to be drawn on individual cases "but i'll comment on Carrs" , he said that it was morally wrong and added something along the lines "but at least the money that is buying the tickets to see Carr or any other entertainer will already have been taxed , the person buying the tickets will have paid income tax on it" . No one seems to have picked upon this .
I thought when I heard him , I'll see when i'm out spending if I can get a few quid knocked off as David Cameron says the money i'm spending i've already paid tax on , so they don't need to .

Fairs fair , no ?

Cheers J .

[william]

How many toffs ?

How many tradesmen ?

So you go to where the food is in abundance..... screw the tradesmen

Who has access to the old boy network ?

Again go for the tradesmen as they cant fight back aswell or have the connections to launch an attack.

Then cream de la cream - get joe public anti tradesman and ensure that they bleat on que. fucking tossers !

I know a guy who runs a trades company and has it going well as he arrives when he says he will and completes the work when he says he will at a cost that was agreed - he makes a mint and is never idle. Lots of happy punters...

How many politicians have many happy punters ?

[Sam Slater]

Of course it's morally wrong. What with the first bankers crisis, then the MPs expenses, then a massive corporation like News International spying on common folk who've had their daughter murdered, then another bankers crisis, then news about the super rich not paying their taxes..........it's all been about the rich people fucking it up for the rest of us and we must all concentrate back on the dirty dole scroungers, benefit cheats, immigrants and dirty plumbers & builders.

It's about time we started blaming people on the bottom few rungs on the ladder, like we're used to. The super rich can only take so much criticism you know! They'll fuck off and then what will we do?!!

[frankthring]

As you say Porn Baron, "cunts, cunts, cunts! ! We are aurrounded by
thieving greedy banking Corporations like Barclays and HSBC, bosses
who thirst to grab millions and are paid colossal sums, but now Ordinary
Joe Public" is morally wrong if he does a quiet cash transaction with a
tradesman etc....Give me a break !!!
Without getting biblical, politicians like this need to remove the plank of
wood in their eyes before telling me about the speck of dirt in mine. Bloody
hypocrites !!

[David Johnson]

yesterday you were saying how wonderful Caulke and the Tories were

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=259199&t=259199

What are you, Slippo, a floatng voter who changes what they think about a topic every day?

[max_tranmere]

I found that very odd because any cash business could dodge tax if it chose to, so does that mean it is morally wrong to pay self-employed taxi drivers cash, market stall owners, independant shopkeepers, ice cream vendors, and so on? Why is it that plumbers, builders, and cleaners are singled out? I knew someone who had a market stall years ago and he said you could "lose a bit" when doing the books, like you can with any cash business, but the notion that just cos someone is paid in cash it highly increases the chances they will not declare it is rubbish. You can pay someone by cheque, they could put it in their personal account, and the taxman wouldn't know anyway.

[David Johnson]

I dont think that Caulke said it is morally wrong to pay tradesmen cash. To pay tradesmen cash is perfectly fair and legal. What the tradesmen do with the cash is a different matter.

He said it is morally wrong to get a reduced price for cash knowing that the tradesman concerned is not going to declare it to HMRC. That is going along with tax fraud.

But hey it diverts people's attention from the main issue which is the umpteen billions that large corporations avoid tax on.

"You can pay someone by cheque, they could put it in their personal account, and the taxman wouldn't know anyway".

Until you get investigated and the HMRC want to know about all these payments into the personal account. They don't take too kindly to the "I've got very generous relations" defence.

[max_tranmere]

I suppose lots of payments by cheque into the personal account would make the taxman get suspicious, but a small number you could get away with. Also, it is possible to have another account the taxman knows nothing about and just shove cheques in there all the time. Unless the tax office writes to the head office of every bank and building society, and gets informative answers, they will never know. You could have an account in someone elses name aswell, like your wife or elderly mum. Many people have savings accounts, and many people have tens of thousands of pounds in them, and I've not heard of many cases of the tax office demanding to know where every penny came from.

On a seperate point, isn't Philip Green (owner of TopShop and others) a major doner to the Tory party? He is in the super-heavyweight division of tax avoidance, officially living in Monte Carlo or somewhere, putting the business in his wife's name and so on. Why don't politicans condemn people like that for what is clearly a massive tax dodge, rather than having a go at relatively low paid contractors you might pay cash to when they come to do a job at your house?

[David Johnson]

"On a separate point, isn't Philip Green (owner of TopShop and others) a major doner to the Tory party? He is in the super-heavyweight division of tax avoidance, officially living in Monte Carlo or somewhere, putting the business in his wife's name and so on. Why don't politicans condemn people like that for what is clearly a massive tax dodge, rather than having a go at relatively low paid contractors you might pay cash to when they come to do a job at your house?"

As you know, the question and answer are in your post above.

As to your beginner's guide to tax evasion for the tradesman, ever thought there might be a role of chairman at HSBC available for someone like yourself?

[Arginald Valleywater]

I get PAYE at source so have no opportunity to bend the rules. Why should one profession get away with tax avoidance while millions of us have our hands tied (and wouldn't fiddle anyway)? A lot of tradesmen I know are flash bastards who fit Harry Enfield's Loadsamoney stereotype and freely admit to doing one job in two cash in hand or part cash part cheque with the invoice only covering the bare materials. Pay up like the rest of us.