After all the posts about the loathsome Rochdale paedophiles who were thankfully sent down, I am surprised forumites haven't picked up on this story in the press last week. Not a single comment!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/ ... aedophiles
The main points seem to be:
1. Raids involving 45 UK police forces leading to 100 arrests, with 24 children found whom investigators fear were at risk of abuse.
2. Almost 100 case studies from 34 forces found that offenders who both possessed child abuse images and attacked children were "almost exclusively white males", most aged between 19 and 45, with half living with children.
Personally I don't have a view, but in the light of the above statements 1 and 2, do forumites believe:
1. Possessing child abuse images and attacking children is a "white" problem?
2. Is it a religious or maybe an atheist problem? After all there have been a number of cases of paedophilia with regard to Catholic priests which have been hushed up?
3. Is it a white, Anglo Saxon cultural thing in terms of a breakdown in family values in which vulnerable children are regarded as "scum", "fresh meat" and "worthless?
I am particularly interested in the views of those forumites who contributed to the discussion on the Rochdale paedophilia case.
Horrible!
Re: You still don't get it, do you?
You still don't understand do you. You are completely blinded by your slavish devotion to New labour and political correctness! I will explain again, the Rochdale Pakistani paeodos and similar groups are unique, because the police forces in these areas ALLOWED them to run amok and abuse children, for no other reason than the fear of being branded "Racist" if they arrested and charged them.
You can quote a hundred cases of white paedophiles, it is is irrelevant and it does in no way remedy or alleviate the above scandal, that was allowed to continue, in fact thrive under New Labour.
You are going to have to just get used to it and stop using semantics and smoke and mirrors in an attempt to lessen the gravity of what occurred. I am sure that many on here are of the opinion, that if you had been a Chief Constable or Social worker in these areas, you too would have allowed these people run free. You seem to have the same mindset. You prove everything that is frightening about the scourge of Political Correctness.
I would wager, if New Labour had won the last election, these groups would not only be still running free, but it would be illegal to even discuss the topic on a forum like this! You DJ would have been able to report us to the appropriate authority and have us arrested! You woud have been in Heaven! lol
You can quote a hundred cases of white paedophiles, it is is irrelevant and it does in no way remedy or alleviate the above scandal, that was allowed to continue, in fact thrive under New Labour.
You are going to have to just get used to it and stop using semantics and smoke and mirrors in an attempt to lessen the gravity of what occurred. I am sure that many on here are of the opinion, that if you had been a Chief Constable or Social worker in these areas, you too would have allowed these people run free. You seem to have the same mindset. You prove everything that is frightening about the scourge of Political Correctness.
I would wager, if New Labour had won the last election, these groups would not only be still running free, but it would be illegal to even discuss the topic on a forum like this! You DJ would have been able to report us to the appropriate authority and have us arrested! You woud have been in Heaven! lol
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Jimslip
Message to you from your mate on Lizards Rock
"Fuck me! give it a fucking rest, I think the group understands your Political leanings, don't you have some donkey's to feed?"
My post here is about a completely different situation.
To summarise then, you have no comment whatsoever. I can only assume that your only interest in the Rochdale case was that you felt it let you have a go at New Labour.
In other cases of paedophilia, you don't give a fuck.
"Fuck me! give it a fucking rest, I think the group understands your Political leanings, don't you have some donkey's to feed?"
My post here is about a completely different situation.
To summarise then, you have no comment whatsoever. I can only assume that your only interest in the Rochdale case was that you felt it let you have a go at New Labour.
In other cases of paedophilia, you don't give a fuck.
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Re: Horrible!
I totally get where David is coming from and it is so blatantly obvious why it wasnt mentioned.
Its easier to notice if its a bunch of asians which really highlighted th eproblem of lack of parental control for it to happen in the first place. Sleaze bags are everywhere and its not indigenous to colour or nationality or even what sex you are either.
I think the "white problem" is unfair as well for reasons already stated.
BUT I do see your point David
How the fuck did politics get into this????
JIMBO!!!!
Its easier to notice if its a bunch of asians which really highlighted th eproblem of lack of parental control for it to happen in the first place. Sleaze bags are everywhere and its not indigenous to colour or nationality or even what sex you are either.
I think the "white problem" is unfair as well for reasons already stated.
BUT I do see your point David
How the fuck did politics get into this????
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Another point, Jimslip
In your post which was a mixture of your usual infantile smears and nonsense, I have chosen one statement.
"I will explain again, the Rochdale Pakistani paeodos and similar groups are unique, because the police forces in these areas ALLOWED them to run amok and abuse children, for no other reason than the fear of being branded "Racist" if they arrested and charged them. "
Although this has got nothing to do with my post here, I won't allow your total ignorance to slip through. Heaven forbid if people start taking you seriously on this forum, Jimbo.
Greater Manchester police first heard about the grooming when one of the teenage girls made a complaint four years ago. Detectives took her case seriously and offered her support and put together evidence and submitted it to the CPS. Two men were ARRESTED (Note the word, arrested Jim). But controversially, the Crown Prosecution Service took the decision in 2009 not to charge two of the men convicted earlier this week. The reason the CPS gave at the time was that the witness was not credible. This decision was overturned later.
So in summary, two of the men were arrested, but CPS did not play ball. Can't you ever get anything right, Jim?
"I will explain again, the Rochdale Pakistani paeodos and similar groups are unique, because the police forces in these areas ALLOWED them to run amok and abuse children, for no other reason than the fear of being branded "Racist" if they arrested and charged them. "
Although this has got nothing to do with my post here, I won't allow your total ignorance to slip through. Heaven forbid if people start taking you seriously on this forum, Jimbo.
Greater Manchester police first heard about the grooming when one of the teenage girls made a complaint four years ago. Detectives took her case seriously and offered her support and put together evidence and submitted it to the CPS. Two men were ARRESTED (Note the word, arrested Jim). But controversially, the Crown Prosecution Service took the decision in 2009 not to charge two of the men convicted earlier this week. The reason the CPS gave at the time was that the witness was not credible. This decision was overturned later.
So in summary, two of the men were arrested, but CPS did not play ball. Can't you ever get anything right, Jim?
Re: Comrade!
Ever the patronising little Stalinist know it all, dictation machine, never an original thought or word to say, just the spewing of endless PC drivel. I've got a paper shredding machine that reminds me of you! But in the midst of your insults you always leave an important piece of information missing. Like your New Labour MP Anne Cryers statement that in effect states that institutions like the police and the CPS didn't proceed with prosecuting the Asian paedo gangs "For fear of being branded racist".
I seem to recall whilst the Asian Paedos were running amok with a nod and a wink from the "Right-on" cops , some little old lady was thrown into prison for refusing to pay her council tax.
Welcome to the perverted, twisted World of New Labour, or certainly as it was then.
Here's some more stuff from a tragic victim of the paedo gang:
"Girl A said that in a six-hour interview she gave police details about her abusers and where the attacks took place. Crucially, too, she handed officers underwear that proved she had been raped by two men in a single attack.
"I hoped they were going to do something and it would stop," she said.
"But it just carried on. It just started again with different men and more men this time, and that's when it started becoming up to five men a day".
How ever you might try to miss inform, airbrush, spin, cover up, twist and turn, the fact remains that New labour had created a state of fear in many institutions in the UK, a fear of being branded un-PC. So this is the real background to the Asian paedos allowed to roam free. In time under that crazy regime, people like you, would have been doing everything in their power to protect so called, "Victim groups" from prosecution. In time a single phone call from some New Labour quango, would have had a suspect freed, for no other reason than his ethnicity. Meanwhile, the man in the street, law abiding and tax paying would have been crushed underfoot.
This is the mad, topsy turvey world you crave. A world wear you can wear a uniform and stamp on people like me, stamp on anyone who who does not spout your PC garbage.
Look back in history and you will see what has happened when people like you are given power. You have "The Cultural Revolution" and you have the Killing Fields of Cambodia. What happens when people like you hold power?, Millions die!
OK so this is what you really want people on BGAFD to say , "Hey, there are 10's thousands of white paedos so why all the fuss about a few from the Asian community, you must be all racists!"
This kind of shit used to work under New labour and had the whole country cowering in fear, but now your intimidation and spin doesn't work anymore, haven't you noticed?
I seem to recall whilst the Asian Paedos were running amok with a nod and a wink from the "Right-on" cops , some little old lady was thrown into prison for refusing to pay her council tax.
Welcome to the perverted, twisted World of New Labour, or certainly as it was then.
Here's some more stuff from a tragic victim of the paedo gang:
"Girl A said that in a six-hour interview she gave police details about her abusers and where the attacks took place. Crucially, too, she handed officers underwear that proved she had been raped by two men in a single attack.
"I hoped they were going to do something and it would stop," she said.
"But it just carried on. It just started again with different men and more men this time, and that's when it started becoming up to five men a day".
How ever you might try to miss inform, airbrush, spin, cover up, twist and turn, the fact remains that New labour had created a state of fear in many institutions in the UK, a fear of being branded un-PC. So this is the real background to the Asian paedos allowed to roam free. In time under that crazy regime, people like you, would have been doing everything in their power to protect so called, "Victim groups" from prosecution. In time a single phone call from some New Labour quango, would have had a suspect freed, for no other reason than his ethnicity. Meanwhile, the man in the street, law abiding and tax paying would have been crushed underfoot.
This is the mad, topsy turvey world you crave. A world wear you can wear a uniform and stamp on people like me, stamp on anyone who who does not spout your PC garbage.
Look back in history and you will see what has happened when people like you are given power. You have "The Cultural Revolution" and you have the Killing Fields of Cambodia. What happens when people like you hold power?, Millions die!
OK so this is what you really want people on BGAFD to say , "Hey, there are 10's thousands of white paedos so why all the fuss about a few from the Asian community, you must be all racists!"
This kind of shit used to work under New labour and had the whole country cowering in fear, but now your intimidation and spin doesn't work anymore, haven't you noticed?
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Re: Horrible!
David:
Yes, white paedoes exist. So what? white murderers exist too, but when several British Pakistanis decided to set off suicide bombs in the London Tube, they were doing something qualitatively different. It was a racist rejection of our society in the most violent way. To a lesser degree, the northern Pakistani rape gangs are part of the same continuum. They set out deliberately to rape young white girls because they are white. Like the suicide bombers, they live in Britain but despise British culture and society. That is the problem you seem to wilfully avoid.
Yes, white paedoes exist. So what? white murderers exist too, but when several British Pakistanis decided to set off suicide bombs in the London Tube, they were doing something qualitatively different. It was a racist rejection of our society in the most violent way. To a lesser degree, the northern Pakistani rape gangs are part of the same continuum. They set out deliberately to rape young white girls because they are white. Like the suicide bombers, they live in Britain but despise British culture and society. That is the problem you seem to wilfully avoid.
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Robches
WHy don't you start your own thread?
Your comments have nothing at all to do with my initial post which refers to to the following points, not mine but the article's and then I pose some questions:
The main points seem to be:
1. Raids involving 45 UK police forces leading to 100 arrests, with 24 children found whom investigators fear were at risk of abuse.
2. Almost 100 case studies from 34 forces found that offenders who both possessed child abuse images and attacked children were "almost exclusively white males", most aged between 19 and 45, with half living with children.
You have nothing to say on the questions so please start your own thread rather than hijack mine.
Ta.
Your comments have nothing at all to do with my initial post which refers to to the following points, not mine but the article's and then I pose some questions:
The main points seem to be:
1. Raids involving 45 UK police forces leading to 100 arrests, with 24 children found whom investigators fear were at risk of abuse.
2. Almost 100 case studies from 34 forces found that offenders who both possessed child abuse images and attacked children were "almost exclusively white males", most aged between 19 and 45, with half living with children.
You have nothing to say on the questions so please start your own thread rather than hijack mine.
Ta.
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OEJ/Jim Slip
I notice that Jim Slip has not had the courtesy to post in reply to you.
I am shocked, truly shocked and amazed. My gob is smacked that James has totally ignored you.
!laugh! !laugh! !laugh!
I am shocked, truly shocked and amazed. My gob is smacked that James has totally ignored you.
!laugh! !laugh! !laugh!