Another white rapist gets convicted

[Toliverwist]

Readers have enough posted material to make up their own minds who is the one doing the blathering.

[Essex Lad]

David Johnson wrote:

> "Have I missed something?"
>
> Yes.
>
> "There seems to be an epidemic of white rapists in England,

But since 92% of people in this country are white, you could equally argue that there are epidemics of white burglars, murderers etc. And yes, I know that we don't say "White serial killer Peter Sutcliffe was jailed yesterday" for the simple reason that we tend not to describe the majority. If there were 20 people standing at a bus stop and 19 of them were white, you would have to find a differentiation for the one you are talking about (hair colour, weight, clothes) unless, of course, it was the solitary black or asian chap.


> given huge numbers of them are also on holidays buggering
> underage girls and boys in Thailand and Cambodia"

Are there huge numbers of sad, white men in Asia buggering underage boys and girls? I've never met anyone who's been to either country. What evidence do you have that there are huge numbers of Britons there?

>
> An example of one race exploiting and raping others without
> endless debating about the religious and race element as in the
> Rochdale case.
>
The judge who had heard more info of the case than any of us (unless we sat in the courtroom and even then...) said that there was a racial element to the crimes.

[David Johnson]

You are welcome to your opinion.

The key point is that you are totally unable to support your comment

"there seems a problem with the ratio of Muslims, to the overall population, who are involved in paedophilia?"

with any statistics whatsoever.

Admitting that you are totally wrong would be a good start.

[David Johnson]

You dont seem to have grasped the point of this thread.

In my view there is an inherent desire for many on this forum to dwell on the colour, race and religion of criminals and come up with ludicrous statements, whenever a minority group is involved. And to do that in a way they would never do for the majority i.e. white.

For example, Toliverwist states

there seems a problem with the ratio of Muslims, to the overall population, who are involved in paedophilia?"

When challenged by me to give some statistical evidence supporting this statement, he fails completely and moves on as if nothing has happened.

Davey coming from his support for the likes of Nick Griffin and comments about white girls not letting down their race by having interracial sex, gives the impression that we are being swamped by Muslim paedophiles, but again no supporting information.

Sam Slater quotes selective paragraphs from the Koran written 1000 years ago about "slaves" to argue that the defendants could have used this as an excuse, whilst admitting for all he knows they could have been pissheads who fancied white girls because they were not like their sisters and more likely to do "tricks".

Jim Slip, bless him, rants on inanely and stupidly about me apparently being unhappy that Asian paedophiles have been convicted.

So, all I have done is turned a mirror in people's faces in my initial post by taking the style and content of their posts, but sticking in white instead of Muslim. As a result I get all of the comments from people, that sensibly they should also be making to the above people about their posts on Asian paedophiles i.e. you say "where is your proof about "huge" numbers of white people buggering kids in Asia.

Yet do you or the people in the quotes above, state to Toliverwist "where is your proof about "a problem with the ratio of Muslims, to the overall population, who are involved in paedophilia". No they dont.

Thats the point!

[Sam Slater]

[quote]Sam Slater quotes selective paragraphs from the Koran written 1000 years ago about "slaves" to argue that the defendants could have used this as an excuse, whilst admitting for all he knows they could have been pissheads who fancied white girls because they were not like their sisters and more likely to do "tricks".[/quote]

Firstly, I didn't say the members of this grooming gang were 'pissheads who fancied white girls'. Secondly, I think it proves that in highlighting both the religious element as well as the opportunistic (some men taking advantage of girls who weren't part of community and vulnerable due to cultural differences of rearing children) my thought processes about this whole affair have been far more balanced than Davey's, Peter's and indeed, your's.

Do not twist my words or misquote me in order to categorize me in the same bracket as the more simple-minded on here who just want to find something in which to attack people of a difference race or ethnicity. Unlike you I find room for greed, immorality, opportunism, lust, cultural differences and a religious element that all together culminated in lots of girls being groomed for sex over a long period of time without anyone in the community it happened raising the alarm. You're trying to imply admitting opportunism as well as religious permissions is in some way contradictory. It isn't. If you aren't persuaded by that view then please tell me why.

[quote]In my view there is an inherent desire for many on this forum to dwell on the colour, race and religion of criminals and come up with ludicrous statements, whenever a minority group is involved.[/quote]

For the record, do not put religion (a way of living your life based on a philosophy and set of rules and practices) in the same category as skin colour or race, which is based on genetics. You choose to be a Christian/Scientologist/Hindu. You do not choose to be of a skin colour, or have certain physical characteristics more common in people descended from China.

Annoyed you put me in the same bracket as BNP-loving Davey. Shows a lot about how you think and it lowers my opinion of you.

[jimslip]

As usual David Johnson has completely missed the whole point of this topic. Let me explain in BIG WRITING so that he may understand!

DUE TO THE CLIMATE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS INSTILLED INTO THE UK BY NEW LABOUR NUTTERS, LIKE YOU DAVID, THE POLICE AND CPS ACTIVELY AND KNOWINGLY ALLOWED ASIAN PAEDOPHILE GANGS TO RAPE AND ABUSE, UNCHECKED AND WITHOUT FEAR OF PROSECUTION. THIS IMMUNITY TO PROSECUTION WAS AFFORDED TO THESE PEOPLE FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEIR ETHNICITY. IN OTHER WORDS IF THEY HAD NOT BEEN ASIAN, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BANGED UP SO FAST YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN THEM FOR DUST.

TO QUOTE ONE OF YOUR OWN, ANNE CRYER LABOUR MP,

"This is an absolute scandal. They (The police & CPS) were petrified of being called racist and so reverted to the default of political correctness," she said.

"They had a greater fear of being perceived in that light than in dealing with the issues in front of them."

WHAT A DAMNING INDICTEMENT AND STILL YOU SEE NOTHING WRONG! YOUR HYPOCRISY IS BREATHTAKING! IF THIS HAD HAPPENED UNDER A TORY GOVERNMENT YOU WOULD BE FOAMING AT THE MOUTH AND DEMANDING THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT WERE HANGED, BUT BECAUSE NEW LABOUR WERE IN CHARGE YOU BRUSH ASIDE THE PLIGHT OF THE CHILD VICTIMS AND SOB FOR THE PERPETRATORS.

THIS IS THE CRAZY, TOPSY TURVY, NUTTY AND SINISTER WORLD OF NEW LABOUR THAT JOHNSON WANTS US TO AGAIN ENDURE FOR ANOTHER 13 YEARS. GOD HELP US ALL IF THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN!!deadhorse!

[Toliverwist]

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David Johnson
Date: 05-15-12 10:29

You are welcome to your opinion.

The key point is that you are totally unable to support your comment

"there seems a problem with the ratio of Muslims, to the overall population, who are involved in paedophilia?"

with any statistics whatsoever.

Admitting that you are totally wrong would be a good start.
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Look, enough all right!

Have some consideration for the white child victims of the Asian paedophiles.

Argumentative responses, which perpetuate an interminable exercise in futile attempts at debate scoring *convince nobody*, and persisting with such, only treats the white child victims with utter contempt.

My previous postings stand on their own merit, (or otherwise), and I have nothing to add to them.

Readers will be able to judge for themselves the validity of the points I raised, and the quality of your responses.

[David Johnson]

" I didn't say the members of this grooming gang were 'pissheads who fancied white girls'"

I have in no way suggested you have. You have jumped to an incorrect conclusion.

"Do not twist my words or misquote me in order to categorize me in the same bracket as the more simple-minded on here who just want to find something in which to attack people of a difference race or ethnicity."

I have not misquoted you. See answer above. Nor do I bracket you with " simple-minded people...... aattack people of a different race or ethnicity" in terms of stating that that is your objective.

"Annoyed you put me in the same bracket as BNP-loving Davey."

I didnt.

We have discussed all of this elsewhere. I have no interest in repeating the previous discussion.

[David Johnson]

"Have some consideration for the white child victims of the Asian paedophiles."

I do. And I note you continue to come up with endless insults/insinuations with nothing to back them up. Above is yet another example.

[David Johnson]

"THE POLICE AND CPS ACTIVELY AND KNOWINGLY ALLOWED ASIAN PAEDOPHILE GANGS TO RAPE AND ABUSE, UNCHECKED AND WITHOUT FEAR OF PROSECUTION. THIS IMMUNITY TO PROSECUTION WAS AFFORDED TO THESE PEOPLE FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEIR ETHNICITY. IN OTHER WORDS IF THEY HAD NOT BEEN ASIAN, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BANGED UP SO FAST YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN THEM FOR DUST."

I repeat. You have zero evidence of this. I am not disputing its possibility. What I am disputing is your automatic assumption that that is the explanation.

Yet I see nothing from you on the case of Brian Witty who the police brought evidence to the CPS on three different occasions over a decade or more and the CPS did nothing. Maybe because he was a plausible character - handsome, white, ex-military investment banker.

Given you spend your entire life, getting worked up by New Labour and slagging them off endlessly, I find it absolutely hilarious that you quote a Labour MP simply because for once, this MP supports your view.

Absolutely pathetic, Jim.