Hillsborough Justice Explanation Please

[Arginald Valleywater]

What exactly do these campaigners mean by justice? People jailed? A public apology from someone who has died or retired? Or simply pure cash?
Amazing how Rangers fan never mention their 1970s disaster and yet Liverpool fans seem to take this event as almost genocide. Nobody went to work that day with the idea of killing anyone so why the endless bleating? I have lost friends to illness, combat and car accidents and I don't make a fuss.

[andy at handiwork]

I suppose the difference is that the Rangers disaster was not down to scandalously inept policing, nor was it followed by a campaign by the responsible police force anonymously briefing journalists to shif the blame.

[Arginald Valleywater]

So it was all the Police's fault then? Absolutely nobody else to blame then? Are the campaigners more interested in the aftermath or the actual tragic events on the day?

[andy at handiwork]

It was the job of the police to ensure the safety of the attendees, through a mixture of professionalism and experience. They demonstrably failed.

[wayne]

Of course the police were only there in the first place becasue the crowd have a nasty habit of trying to kill each other in the first place.

[David Johnson]

Quite right, people who's loved ones went to a football match and never came back should stop moaning and just get on with their lives.

Bunch of whiners every one. And just because there was a coverup by the police and an attempt by the Sun and others to shift blame shouldn't be any cause for these people to find out all the information relating to the deaths of their sons, daughters, dads etc.

Quite right Arginald, useless, over-emotional Scouse whingers.

Next week - why do tossers who have had their children murdered spend so much time trying to find out who killed them?

And why do people who have had their kids lives wiped out by motorists driving at 70 in a 30mph area, campaign about dangerous driving penalties?

About time these people got a life.

Cheers
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[number 6]

Really depressing when your people like Arnold still sticking up for the police and establishment when it was CLEAR to anyone with half a brain the fans on the day were smeared and lied about by the toilet roll rag the sun. The police FAILED,it was nothingh to do with the fans,they didnt cause the deaths. I suppose it goes back to politics,some people just depise certain parts of the country and thise who hail from them,sun newspaper mentality through and through.

[BGAFD Admin]

Kelvin MacKenzie on Question Time - Hillsborough

[Tony__T]

I had a friend who died at Hillsborough so I'm not going to get too deeply into this as I just end up upset.

But it is utterly depressing that 20+ years on, people are still spreading the same old lies about "scousers killing each other". Hillsborough never even had a safety certificate. It could have been any club that it happened to.

And there was a cover-up. Just take the time to read some background. I'm on my way now, otherwise I'd post some links. I mean, it's not beyond belief that the police, politicians and the press would collude to smear a group of people, is it?

If anyone does want some background: http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/

Anyone else who wants to bang on about dirty scousers, Heysel, karma etc, knock yourself out if it makes you feel better.

[Robches]

Football grounds in the 80s were deathtraps. Fans were treated like cattle, funnelled into cages with no escape routes. Something like Hillsborough was always going to happen, sooner or later.