When did we lose control of our borders?

[max_tranmere]

If there is something negative happening as a result of mass uncontrolled immigration then it is reasonable to oppose it and have a moan about it. None of my comments over recent times are against anyone or anything in an unjustified way.

[max_tranmere]

I do wonder what Ted Heath's motivation was. Margaret Thatcher was willing for us to enter the ERM years later because her Chancellor, John Major, was pushing for her to agree to it and, following the fact her previous Chancellor Nigel Lawson had resigned, she felt (as she saw her own political interests as more important than what the country wanted or needed) she had little choice if she wanted to keep her job. As Ken Clarke said a few years later "she couldn't lose two Chancellors in short sucession, so into the ERM we went..." A classic case of 'career first, the nations interests second'. Quite disgusting really, and when we were ejected from the ERM it cost us massively. She knew the dangers but did it anyway - for her own political interests. Why Ted Heath was so keen to sell us out in the 1970's I am not so sure.

[David Johnson]

Okay, I could have picked from hundreds of anti-immigrant posts that you have made over the years on this forum.

Perhaps you could direct me to some of your posts which highlight the positive effects of immigration?

Cheers
D

[max_tranmere]

Positive effects of immigration? A wider range of cuisine, meeting people from differnt backgrounds who can educate you about differnt parts of the world and tell stories about places you have only read about, differnt styles of dress, and so on.

[RoddersUK]

Sorry Max, we didn't vote to join the EU. We, myself included, voted to join a Common Market. We have all been systematically lied to by Heath and the rest of the Europhiles whom we stupidly vote into office.

[RoddersUK]

I think it was because he'd served through the 2nd World War and saw a European Union as a means to put an end to future European wars.
The fact that this lying bastard covered it up until it was too late sticks in my craw, as I am sure it does with others. I'm glad the bastard is dead. May he rot in hell.

[spider]

We'd didn't vote to join anything.

The UK joined the EEC (as it was then) in 1973.

Thirty six year's ago today on the 6th June 1975, the Harold Wilson government held a referendum at which the question was "Do you think the UK should stay in the European Community (Common Market)?".

Just over 67% of voters supported the Labour government's campaign to stay in the EEC.

Labour had promised to hold a vote in its general election manifesto the previous October.



Those were the days ah, when a political party said one thing in it's manifesto and then actually did what they said. Are you reading this Nick Clegg?

[David Johnson]

You have misunderstand my post. I suspect on purpose.

Given I could have chosen from hundreds of anti-immigration posts you have made on this forum, can you direct me to three posts THAT YOU HAVE MADE ON HERE IN THE PAST which highlight the advantages of immigration, not an off the cuff response?

Cheers
D

[max_tranmere]

Probably not, and I did not intentionally misunderstand your post.

There are advantages to immigration and I listed them just now. There are many many disadvantages, and I have listed them in lots of posts I've written.

[David Johnson]

So given that you have written hundreds of messages which are anti-immigration and cannot point to a single, unsolicited post which highlights the advantages of immigration, which of the following political parties do you think most closely represents your views on immigration?

1. Labour
2. Liberal Democrats
3. Conservatives
4. UKIP
5. BNP

Keep in mind that even Nigel Farage, unlike your good self, has made a number of positive remarks on the subject of the contribution of immigrants to British society.

Cheers
D