Serious Subject - AV Voting Reform

[Sam Slater]

[quote]Still not as stupid as you, you complete and utter arse.[/quote]

I didn't call you stupid. I called you a twa(t^10). Still, if you were as stupid as me you'd be laughing.

[quote]I asked a serious question and your reply is the standard you have set on this forum.[/quote]

While you've never made light of, been rude to, or abused anyone on here after a serious question, have you Rodders. Little angel that you are.

[quote]Thank fuck you will never be invited to Lizardsrock.
Probably be best anyway as you'd probably have a heart attack if you were to read the comments about you.[/quote]

Fuck me, are you sure you're not about 14?

[Sam Slater]

It won't matter what the constituency size. A 40% vote for Labour, a 20% vote for the Lib Dems, a 20% vote for the Tories and 20% going to various others still means only 40% of the voters getting proper representation.

In England the constituency sizes range from 56,000 to 79,000 (apart from the Isle of White at 109,000) so not as big a range as you're making out. I'm all for it, though. It would mean more seats in inner city areas, which tend to be more to the left.

[Sam Slater]

[quote]I'm a twat to the power of ten[/quote]

That's unfair. Only the 't' was to the power of 10. I thought you'd approve.

[Sam Slater]

But with AV Lab/Lib can pick up some 2nd/3rd choice votes from Tory voters in these new areas. What's the second choice of a Tory voter that isn't left of centre? UKIP? The country as a whole is left of centre and even with boundary changes I think AV will have some affect (and more importantly it'll be more representative).

If Cameron wasn't bothered about AV at all then why campaign against it? He could have just granted it when the coalition first started and in return got the Lib Dems to concede on some other policy or other in return.

The Tories don't want it because it will be detrimental to the number of seats they get in parliament, boundary changes or no.

[Sam Slater]

[quote]Well we just established that AV wouldn't have changed any of the last 7 elections[/quote]

No, but a hell of a lot more people would have been represented in parliament that never were. And that can make a difference what gets passed and what doesn't.

You don't want AV, that's fine. I'm just not having this bollocks that it's somehow worse, or less proportional to what we have now.