The fix with the Chicago mob was arranged by Joe Kennedy, he did not tell JFK or RFK what he was up to. They would have been rather unwise to have gone after the mob the way they did if they had known the full facts.
As it was, the mob was involved in JFK's assassination: Jack Ruby was a Chicago mobster sent down to Dallas to look after mob intrerests. But I think the full story involved a conspiracy of CIA officers, anti-Castro Cubans and the mob. They all hated JFK for failing to invade Cuba to depose Castro, albeit for different reasons. We know for a fact from the Church Committee that the CIA co-operated with the mob to try and kill Castro. It is not a huge step to killing JFK and replacing him with LBJ. JFK's security was an absolute joke, his agents had been up until 3.00 am on the piss the night before he was killed, and the motorcade was deemed to have ended when it entered Dealey Plaza, so there were no police stationed on the route and places like the grassy knoll were not searched.
The House Select Committee on Assassinations which examined this in the 1970s got very close to breaking the case, and the researchers working on it were convinced of a CIA backed plot, but the chairman, Robert Blakey, decided that the mob did it, and personally wrote the report to exclude the CIA's involvement. But as it stands, the HSCA report is the last word by the US government, not the Warren Report, and its official conclusion was that JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
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The Assassination originated with the Military Industrial Complex more explicitly a rogue element of The CIA with the help of Anti-Castro Cubans. The mob would have been involved at a lower level perhaps. Jack Ruby certainly had links to the mob. But the Mafia could not have arranged or organised the hit. This was a Coup D'Etat, plain and simple. It was a CIA Black Op. And the mob couldn't have changed the parade route of the motorcade. Got the motorcade to slow down under 12 mph taking a dog leg turn. The driver of the car came to a complete stop for the fatal head shot. No Secret Service agents reacted at all and they were all stationed to the motorcade and supplied Secret Service passes by the CIA. The only agent to react was Clint Hill who arrived on the morning of the Assassination as a replacement. The Mob certainly couldn't have got his body removed from Parkland Memorial Hospital, before an Autopsy, violating Texas Law. They couldn't have got the Naval Autopsy performed at Bethesda. Or carried out the Autopsy to support a fatal headshot from the rear. They certainly couldn't have got President Johnson to appoint the Warren Commission to carry out the cover up (the commission included former CIA Director Allen Dulles whom Kennedy fired for lying to him about the Bay of Pigs). This is where the Assassination stemmed from. The CIA spent millions and years setting up a network of Anti-Castro Cubans in Miami and training them. The CIA told the Cubans to expect Air Support for the invasion and also ordered the Cubans to proceed with the operation even if it was cancelled at the last minute. The invasion was a disaster and Kennedy after being lied to by Dulles refused to send Air Cover. The CIA were furious and embarressed by Kennedy. Never to trust him again and swearing revenge. After this Kennedy fired Dulles and swore he was going "to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds"
This is what people have to remember. Kennedy started out as a "Cold Warrior" but soon changed. Especially after the Cuban Missile Crisis, in which the Pentagon, Joint Chiefs Of Staff and the CIA wanted Kennedy to launch a Nuclear Strike on the Soviet Union. Kennedy refused and started back channel negotiations with Premier Khruschev. They had signed the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty and Kennedy was selling the USSR wheat and Grain which the Pentagon was unhappy about. He was also in the middle of negotiations with Fidel Castro about lifting the trade embargo with Cuba and coming to an agreement with him about recognising Cuba. Also Kennedy had signed executive order National Security Memorandum Order 263 withdrawing 100,000 troops from Vietnam by the end of 1963 and a complete withdrawel of all US Personel by 1965. None of this went down well with The Pentagon, The Joint Chiefs, The Army Generals, The CIA or the FBI. This is when the plot was executed.
There are a number of great books on the Assassination. Obviously the well known ones are Crossfire: The Plot To Kill Kennedy by Jim Marrs, On The Trail of the Assassins by Jim Garrison, The Kennedy Conspiracy by Anthony Summers. But there are lots of other good books. The one i have just finished and is certainly one of the best is JFK And The Unspeakable by James W. Douglass. Which is an amazing thought-provoking read. Highly recommended. And comes without the usual assassination bizzare blame everybody assassination books. And concentrates on the Why? And how? Another good book is Oswald and the CIA by John M. Newman.
I am currently reading another Assassination book called The Man Who Knew Too Much by Dick Russell. Which is about Richard Case Nagell a CIA double agent who was working for the KGB. H e claims the KGB found out about the plot to kill Kennedy and ordered him to Kill Oswald. Fearing reprisals from the CIA and fearing the KGB would know he was a double agent if he didn't shoot Oswald he walked into a bank and fired 2 shots in the ceiling and waited to be arrested. Saying he would "rather be in Jail than commit murder and treason" so as to establish an alibi for the assassination. Its pretty interesting so far.
This is what people have to remember. Kennedy started out as a "Cold Warrior" but soon changed. Especially after the Cuban Missile Crisis, in which the Pentagon, Joint Chiefs Of Staff and the CIA wanted Kennedy to launch a Nuclear Strike on the Soviet Union. Kennedy refused and started back channel negotiations with Premier Khruschev. They had signed the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty and Kennedy was selling the USSR wheat and Grain which the Pentagon was unhappy about. He was also in the middle of negotiations with Fidel Castro about lifting the trade embargo with Cuba and coming to an agreement with him about recognising Cuba. Also Kennedy had signed executive order National Security Memorandum Order 263 withdrawing 100,000 troops from Vietnam by the end of 1963 and a complete withdrawel of all US Personel by 1965. None of this went down well with The Pentagon, The Joint Chiefs, The Army Generals, The CIA or the FBI. This is when the plot was executed.
There are a number of great books on the Assassination. Obviously the well known ones are Crossfire: The Plot To Kill Kennedy by Jim Marrs, On The Trail of the Assassins by Jim Garrison, The Kennedy Conspiracy by Anthony Summers. But there are lots of other good books. The one i have just finished and is certainly one of the best is JFK And The Unspeakable by James W. Douglass. Which is an amazing thought-provoking read. Highly recommended. And comes without the usual assassination bizzare blame everybody assassination books. And concentrates on the Why? And how? Another good book is Oswald and the CIA by John M. Newman.
I am currently reading another Assassination book called The Man Who Knew Too Much by Dick Russell. Which is about Richard Case Nagell a CIA double agent who was working for the KGB. H e claims the KGB found out about the plot to kill Kennedy and ordered him to Kill Oswald. Fearing reprisals from the CIA and fearing the KGB would know he was a double agent if he didn't shoot Oswald he walked into a bank and fired 2 shots in the ceiling and waited to be arrested. Saying he would "rather be in Jail than commit murder and treason" so as to establish an alibi for the assassination. Its pretty interesting so far.
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50s crooner Eddie Fisher fucked the same women as Kennedy orgies in the Whitehouse soon as he saw his wife hed get em all out!
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Douglass's book is meant to be excellent from what I hear.
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I can highly recommend Douglass's book. Really is a fabulous read. I didn't think anybody could beat Marr's book. But i think this is just as good, if not better. Certainly it doesn't cover as much ground as Marr's effort, but as to the why and how it is indispensable. I would certainly not recommend it to someone as a starting point as Douglass's book assumes the reader is fairly familiar with the Assassination. Perhaps reading Marr's book or Summers book first followed by JFK And The Unspeakable.
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Yeh, he tried to stick the nut on the bullet, you muppet.
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