So quck to caricature people you don't know, so quick to defend yourself when the same caricature is used against you.
!wink!
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Student protests
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The Last Word
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Re: Student protests
David Johnson wrote:
> So quck to caricature people you don't know, so quick to defend
> yourself when the same caricature is used against you.
Just giving you the facts.
> So quck to caricature people you don't know, so quick to defend
> yourself when the same caricature is used against you.
Just giving you the facts.
"Let's do it..."
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David Johnson
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Re: Student protests
I'll leave you to the "LAST WORD".
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justincyder
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Re: Student protests
I live in a university town, every week and every night whilst in term time the town centre is virtually a no go area due to vast herds of drunken, puking, fighting students. The difference when its not term time is vast.
If they're struggling financially they're not doing a very good job of showing it.
I know some of course will be but its quite often the minority that suffer as a result of the majority but thats life, suck it up.
If they're struggling financially they're not doing a very good job of showing it.
I know some of course will be but its quite often the minority that suffer as a result of the majority but thats life, suck it up.
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David Johnson
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Justincyder
Hi,
"I live in a university town, every week and every night whilst in term time the town centre is virtually a no go area due to vast herds of drunken, puking, fighting students. The difference when its not term time is vast. If they're struggling financially they're not doing a very good job of showing it.
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First, if you aint going to get excessive between the ages of 18 and 21 it probably isnt ever going to happen. A lot of these kids are living away from home for the first time and are making hay. I'm not condoning the puking/fighting etc just trying to explain it. In that sense they are no different from most young kids away from home. When I worked in Copenhagen there were loads of young Irish kids coming over to work and boy, did they cane it!
Secondly with regard to struggling financially, unless I am missing something students typically borrow the money to support themselves and pay it back as and when they are working (currently when they earn more than ?15,000/year though soon to go up). So for these kids isnt it a bit manana, manana because they dont have to actually find the money themselves at the time?
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"I live in a university town, every week and every night whilst in term time the town centre is virtually a no go area due to vast herds of drunken, puking, fighting students. The difference when its not term time is vast. If they're struggling financially they're not doing a very good job of showing it.
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First, if you aint going to get excessive between the ages of 18 and 21 it probably isnt ever going to happen. A lot of these kids are living away from home for the first time and are making hay. I'm not condoning the puking/fighting etc just trying to explain it. In that sense they are no different from most young kids away from home. When I worked in Copenhagen there were loads of young Irish kids coming over to work and boy, did they cane it!
Secondly with regard to struggling financially, unless I am missing something students typically borrow the money to support themselves and pay it back as and when they are working (currently when they earn more than ?15,000/year though soon to go up). So for these kids isnt it a bit manana, manana because they dont have to actually find the money themselves at the time?
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tommy dickfingers
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Re: Justincyder
People forget that the lib-dems didn't win the election they came 3rd,If they did win only then could they act on all their manifesto pledges including tuition fees.
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David Johnson
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Tommy Dickfingers
Hi,
"People forget that the lib-dems didn't win the election they came 3rd,If they did win only then could they act on all their manifesto pledges including tuition fees."
I have heard this apologia trotted out by Lib Dem MPs ad nauseum. I dont think that anyone believes the Lib Dems won the election.
However what the Lib Dems did do was join a coalition which resulted in them throwing out the vast majority of their policies which they had campaigned on and therefore won their seats based on.
They did not have to join a coalition. THey could either have refused and another election would have most likely occurred. Alternatively they could have formed an informal relationship with the TOries whereby they did not join the government but supported key economic measures. This would have given them much more flexibility to oppose the Tory measures on student fees, foreign policy, defence, education, immigration etc etc. which are in many ways the opposite of what they campaigned on.
WHy didnt they do this? SImples. They were desperate for power at any cost and in return for a huge number of government posts for the Lib Dem MPs they decided to throw out so many of their policies and beliefs.
Their current ratings in the You Gov poll at 9% shows what the electorate feels about the Lib Dem treachery.
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"People forget that the lib-dems didn't win the election they came 3rd,If they did win only then could they act on all their manifesto pledges including tuition fees."
I have heard this apologia trotted out by Lib Dem MPs ad nauseum. I dont think that anyone believes the Lib Dems won the election.
However what the Lib Dems did do was join a coalition which resulted in them throwing out the vast majority of their policies which they had campaigned on and therefore won their seats based on.
They did not have to join a coalition. THey could either have refused and another election would have most likely occurred. Alternatively they could have formed an informal relationship with the TOries whereby they did not join the government but supported key economic measures. This would have given them much more flexibility to oppose the Tory measures on student fees, foreign policy, defence, education, immigration etc etc. which are in many ways the opposite of what they campaigned on.
WHy didnt they do this? SImples. They were desperate for power at any cost and in return for a huge number of government posts for the Lib Dem MPs they decided to throw out so many of their policies and beliefs.
Their current ratings in the You Gov poll at 9% shows what the electorate feels about the Lib Dem treachery.
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