After the Lib Dems about turn on student fees going from a policy of scrapping them in April to one of doubling or trebling them today, it is heartening to see that students are not taking this without a protest.
CHris Huhne had a hard time on a visit to a London university and Vince Cable was forced to cancel a visit to Oxford University.
It will be interesting to see whether as the cuts bite right across society whether the British are prepared to get off their knees for once and fight against this shit being dropped on them by the Lib Dem Con coalition whilst the banks who caused this mess get away scotfree.
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D
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David, put that airbrush back in the drawer! Let us not forget who brought in the university fees in the first place? Remember the good ol' boys and girls of the New Labour front bench had all had FREE university educations on us, but were all so ready to piss on all the students following in their footsteps wanting a further education just like they got!
....."whilst the banks who caused this mess get away scotfree."
David, it was 13 years of squandering by New Labour AND the banks that caused the mess we're in!
....."whilst the banks who caused this mess get away scotfree."
David, it was 13 years of squandering by New Labour AND the banks that caused the mess we're in!
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I think 'student radicals' protest at anything a Conservative Government does. I wonder how many of them just go along to a protest to be seen as concerned intellectuals.
Six months in the army would soon sort them out. (Only joking...I just always wanted to say that).
Six months in the army would soon sort them out. (Only joking...I just always wanted to say that).
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You are quite right that Labour brought in tuition fees to a maximum of ?3200 approx per year. What I notice you do not mention is that the number of students attending college went up by 45% during the Labour government so that increase had to be funded somehow. Whether an increase in student fees or an increase in income tax was the best way to fund this is debatable.
Now if we compare the Labour performance with that of the Lib Dems. One of the absolute key policies of the Lib Dems in their manifesto was to vote against student fee increases and to campaign for their abolition. Every single Lib Dem MP signed a pledge prior to the election stating this. A few months later we have the situation where the Lib Dem Cons have effectively privatised large parts of the education system by withdrawing all state funding for many courses and putting the entire cost onto the student. THe result is that even though there were less British students attending college this year, tuition fees will go up in 2012 to a minimum of ?6,000 a year and in some cases, ?9,,000 a year. This is an enormous, staggering rise.
So my question to you, Jim is if you were a student planning to go to college would you prefer the approach of the Labour party as expressed in their time of government or that of the Lib Dem COns in particular that of Cleggie and co who have effectively shafted a generation of students?
I will answer your Lib Dem Con chestnut about Labour squandering money for 13 years in a separate thread.
Cheers
D
You are quite right that Labour brought in tuition fees to a maximum of ?3200 approx per year. What I notice you do not mention is that the number of students attending college went up by 45% during the Labour government so that increase had to be funded somehow. Whether an increase in student fees or an increase in income tax was the best way to fund this is debatable.
Now if we compare the Labour performance with that of the Lib Dems. One of the absolute key policies of the Lib Dems in their manifesto was to vote against student fee increases and to campaign for their abolition. Every single Lib Dem MP signed a pledge prior to the election stating this. A few months later we have the situation where the Lib Dem Cons have effectively privatised large parts of the education system by withdrawing all state funding for many courses and putting the entire cost onto the student. THe result is that even though there were less British students attending college this year, tuition fees will go up in 2012 to a minimum of ?6,000 a year and in some cases, ?9,,000 a year. This is an enormous, staggering rise.
So my question to you, Jim is if you were a student planning to go to college would you prefer the approach of the Labour party as expressed in their time of government or that of the Lib Dem COns in particular that of Cleggie and co who have effectively shafted a generation of students?
I will answer your Lib Dem Con chestnut about Labour squandering money for 13 years in a separate thread.
Cheers
D
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Student protest? Right on!
Not quite Rhodesia, Vietnam though, is it.
And what's the problem? Most students look like they're rolling in it these days. Might cramp their gap year travelling though. I'll give them that.
Protesting against asking Mummy and Daddy for more money perhaps.
Not quite Rhodesia, Vietnam though, is it.
And what's the problem? Most students look like they're rolling in it these days. Might cramp their gap year travelling though. I'll give them that.
Protesting against asking Mummy and Daddy for more money perhaps.
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"Most students look like they're rolling in it these days"
Fuck, you mix with a different kind of student than me.
"Protesting against asking Mummy and Daddy for more money perhaps."
Not that you are bitter or anything.
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D
Fuck, you mix with a different kind of student than me.
"Protesting against asking Mummy and Daddy for more money perhaps."
Not that you are bitter or anything.
CHeers
D
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David Johnson wrote:
> Not that you are bitter or anything.
With a BA & MA I've nothing to be bitter about at all. They envy me, perhaps.
> Not that you are bitter or anything.
With a BA & MA I've nothing to be bitter about at all. They envy me, perhaps.
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"With a BA & MA I've nothing to be bitter about at all. They envy me, perhaps."
Ok. At least you have impressed someone.
Maybe your Mummy and Daddy could lend them lots of money then?
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Ok. At least you have impressed someone.
Maybe your Mummy and Daddy could lend them lots of money then?
Cheers
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David Johnson wrote:
> Maybe your Mummy and Daddy could lend them lots of money then?
Why? They didn't lend me a penny. This is going back a bit though.
> Maybe your Mummy and Daddy could lend them lots of money then?
Why? They didn't lend me a penny. This is going back a bit though.
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