Ian Tomlinson

A place to socialise and share opinions with other members of the BGAFD Community.
Essex Lad
Posts: 2539
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Re: Ian Tomlinson

Post by Essex Lad »

It's not actually. Most coppers would be as disgusted as we are. There are always a few rotten apples and this copper is one of them and should be thrown out of the force and prosecuted.
Sam Slater
Posts: 11624
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Re: Essex Lad

Post by Sam Slater »

[quote]Apparently they can't even charge the policeman with assault, because there is a time limit of 6 months, apparently from the date of the suspected offence.[/quote]

I don't know for sure but I think the 6 month limit is for reporting assault. If the incident has been reported, by anyone, I think charges can still be brought. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure, though.

[i]I used to spend a lot of time criticizing Islam on here in the noughties - but things are much better now.[/i]
davey
Posts: 732
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Re: Ian Tomlinson

Post by davey »

Poor man walking home from work and attacked by a gang of armed, masked thugs and died

R.I.P Ian Tomlinson

MURDERED BY SCUM

ECG1
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Whitewash?

Post by ECG1 »

A whitewash or the standard CPS incompetence?

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/articles/the ... osecution/

The IPCC wanted a manslaughter conviction, they wanted to make an example out of the officer:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/2 ... cps-ruling

It all boils down to the same situation that allows other criminals to get away Scott free: CPS incompetence.
David Johnson
Posts: 7844
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Re: Whitewash?

Post by David Johnson »

Hi

"It all boils down to the same situation that allows other criminals to get away Scott free: CPS incompetence."

In addition to CPS incompetence there are a number of other issues such as:

How on earth did the City of London coroner end up choosing Patel as the pathologist on the vital, initial examination. Patel had been reprimanded previously by the British Medical Council over his conduct and the Met themselves had written to the Home Office four years earlier raising concerns about Patel's work in a number of cases. Patel has since been barred from the Home Office register of accredited forensic pathologists and from carrying out postmortems into "suspicious deaths".

The decision not to prosecute for manslaughter rests on the evidence of this man who is currently facing 26 charges of sub-standard practices including incompetently handing out a number of previous autopsies.

Secondly, are the police who lied to the press and the Tomlinson family going to be reprimanded? They initially said that they couldnt help Tomlinson because the protestors were throwing bottles. The video subsequently showed that the police just left him on the floor and that it was a bystander who went to his aid. It was protestors who put Tomlinson in the recovery position and called for an ambulance. The police did not initially tell the family that they had been given evidence that he had been assaulted by a police officer. The police said he had been caught up in a fracas between anarchist protestors and the police.

And as for the CPS incompetence, they couldn't even bring themselves to charge the officer with an actual body harm charge even though the second pathologist stated clearly the injuries he had received on his back and said "If that's not ABH, I dont know what is" And why did this take 16 months, when people obviously knew the time limitations on certain charges.

Sickening. And as for the poor family. 16 months of that and the video running over and over in their brain. And after all of that, no charge!!

Cheers
D
BobB
Posts: 94
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Previous Form

Post by BobB »

In addition, it also seems that this particular police officer had been investigated over two previous allegations of over-aggressive behaviour, which turned out to be 'unsubstantiated'.
Good guy to be recruited into the police TSG then...
Essex Lad
Posts: 2539
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 am

Attn: Bob B

Post by Essex Lad »

Actually Pc Simon Harwood, for it is he, was not cleared twice. The first time, while with the Met, he was allowed to retire on full pension before any action could be taken.

The second time was with Surrey Police and the allegation was as you say "unsubstantiated".

If nothing else that should have made him psychologically unsuitable for the TSG.

Today we hear that he is facing disciplinary action... Will he be kicked out? Don;t hold your breath...
Locked