Obama - Our Part In His Success

[crofter]

She was never Heavyweight Champion Liz. but Cruiserweight Champ (check your nude midget boxing yearbook 1963 - page 37). As she is only 3' 7" she found it impossible to put on the extra 10 stone at such short notice - though I do believe she is slowly getting there now ...

It is an interesting theory this - do you think if it was not for slavery *they* would still be living in the dark ages then??

[Sam Slater]

Slavery?

Isn't Obama's mother's side white European ancestry and his father's side Kenyan? I know his Father met his mother as a foreign student in Hawaii and his grandparents on that side were all resident Kenyans.

Were they slaves in Kenya? I don't know for sure, but they weren't westernised blacks who's ancestors came over as slaves if that's what you were getting at.

[Steve R]

Look at the fact of a black President, rather than at the particular individual who happens to be playing the part.

[Sam Slater]

But your point was that thanks to slavery Obama is president.

How?

[Steve R]

No, it wasn't.

[Sam Slater]

Your title: "Obama ? Our part in his success"

Your basic question: "What is our (white people's) contribution to his (Obama's) success?"

The answer you claimed was correct: "Slavery"

My question you've failed to answer: "How?"

[Steve R]

Part of my point concerned "a black President" (identity irrelevant).

Other parts:

Muhammad Ali
Jack Johnson
Jim Hines
Sammy Davis
Jimi Hendrix
The Blues

and many, many more.

The title was just a title.

[Sam Slater]

I still don't know how slavery got a black man into the White House when that black man (he's not black really but for argument's sake...) or his ancestors were involved with slavery.

If slavery never happened, a Kenyan man could still have fallen in love with an American woman, had a son and that son become President.

Please elucidate.

[Steve R]

Otis Redding
B B King
Albert King
Gladys Knight
George Foreman
Gregory Hines

and so on.

[Sam Slater]

Nope....it's still not clear to me how slavery got a black man into the White House. Not when that black man had no roots in slavery.

You seem to know more about all this than me so I'm looking forward to you enlightening me on it. We're never to old to learn new things are we?