The right to stop and search

[eroticartist]

Mike,
Cameron is an authoritarian and a control freak. If you want another public schoolboy to tell you what to do then vote Tory!
Freeman.

[Mike_CFC]

That's three times you said that.I did hear you first time !laugh!eroticartist wrote:

> Mike,
> Cameron is an authoritarian and a control freak. If you want
> another public schoolboy to tell you what to do then vote Tory!
>
> Freeman.

[planeterotica]

I have been stopped and searched by the police under the prevention of terrorism act in the 70s and 80s it was commonplace in London at Stations and elsewhere when the IRA were active, the police would give you a quick frisk and take your details and then inform you that a record of this search would be kept for up to a year at a police station and then they just moved on and searched someone else, so as this law has never been repelled then again i ask the question why do they need more powers to search people !confused!

[one eyed jack]

Bringing back national service is not a bad idea Mike. it might teach these youngsters a thing or two about discipline and they may have a drive to be more ambitious in life than being bored.

[one eyed jack]

Alice I hear wht you ar saying. This is a very complex and there is no one simple answer to it. Ther ar truly some hard cases out there but there are probably more salvagable souls too.

I learn a lot from people I've spoken too and I get enlightened occasionally from a social worker friend of mine (once a blu moon) about the social ills and the poverty that is more rif than people actually think.

I know that there is no excuse not to bettr yourself but some pople are growing up in conditions and familys with so much shit going on thay cant see daylight.

Try talking to these people about having an ambition. They dont evn see th point of ducation when all they see is their idiot friends getting high and robbing people, sometimes not for profit but for the sheer thrill of it.

I see some of these oks and I nod my head in disbelief because they think I am black I should think their tom foolery is cool before they accuse m of being...Man your deep. I'm deep because you are so shallow.

Then they say i want to do what you do for a living like its something easy organising shoots, raising funds (legitimately from what you do)...You need to work on your people skills. You have to be broadminded. Non judgmental. Hardworking. Motivated. Self taught and much more.

Most of those guys who talk like oiks only do so because they think talking proper english makes them something they are not ie posh and educated. Do you se the pattern forming here? They are the opposite of what normal folks are and see us as the enmy because we wont take time to communicate with them. Some of th guys I grew up a screw up with have turned it back and by helping those are also helping thmselves to understand they have to not see any glamour in being "ghetto" and I'm not necessarily talking about poor disenfranchised black kids here...

[planeterotica]

Now dont jump on me for pointing this out, but its a well known fact if you are walking through a U.K. port ie: Heathrow , Gatwick , Dover or any other entry into the country then steer clear of anyone who is not your race because if customs pull someone of one race they will also pull the nearest person of another race just to prove its not racial, this is how they are trained !sad!

[colonel]

Mike_CFC wrote:

> Me too.Why should The Old Bill need long-winded paperwork to
> stop and search a person they suspect is a menace to society?
>
> If they have nothing to hide,no weapon or drugs,then they have
> nothing to worry about.
>
> Like i said,the day i vote Tory will be a cold day in hell.

Just don't vote BNP either!

[Mike_CFC]

I can see you're a Guardian reader colonel !laugh!

As much chance of me voting BNP as Richard Littlejohn has on writing for that paper you read !wink!colonel wrote:

> Mike_CFC wrote:
>
> > Me too.Why should The Old Bill need long-winded paperwork to
> > stop and search a person they suspect is a menace to society?
> >
> > If they have nothing to hide,no weapon or drugs,then they
> have
> > nothing to worry about.
> >
> > Like i said,the day i vote Tory will be a cold day in hell.
>
> Just don't vote BNP either!

[Mike_CFC]

I see your point Graham.In the 1970's- 1980's up to the New Labour era you would be stopped and searched if you were Black,Irish,if you supported a football team that had a 'reputation' or if you had an intimidating look about you.It was a no-brainer that you would be frisked by the O.B.

I was stopped and searched on numerous times as a teenager because i lived in a dodgy part of London.The Police were stereotypical then.

True.The Police have'nt lost total power to stop and search in today's age,but there's too much red tape and dictating when they should just be able to be allowed to do their job.Instead of nicking innocent motorists they should be out on the streets cracking down on unruly kids.

I certainly don't live in fear as it would take a very brave or very stupid youth to get on the wrong side of me.It's the one's that do live in fear that i fear for.

This is Britain afterall,where all the decent people look after each other.

[Mike_CFC]

Jack,it's the only way fella.
Could you imagine a youngster answering back or giving attitude to a commanding officer or someone more senior than him.

But obviously the Liberals of this world reckon it would make them behave alot worse,which is a load of bollocks btw.

If conscription in the UK was never abolished the Street's would be alot more cleaner and safer and Britain would be a better place to live in.

I watched a couple of episodes of that Bad Lads Army and it made me cringe.I'd want these youngsters treated alot tougher than that crap.