Gordon Brown Is A Disaster

[chatterji]

Right wing in what way? Criticising a Chancellor/PM who deserves it? Highlighting the fact that he is selling off our assets, borrowing on the never-never, and actively encouraging a credit culture amongst consumers?

If Brown's actions, as opposed to his rhetoric, are left wing, I'm a Dutchman (preferably Marco van Basten). Left wing and right wing are truly outmoded concepts in modern Britain. It's all centrist/global consumerist where business dictates policy. Fuck their supposed affiliations, the political class is self-serving, blind, arrogant and frequently corrupt.

Fat cats have done, and will continue to do, very nicely out of every successive UK government. Brown is too gutless and canny to go after the rich. Ancient Campbell's latest meaningless diatribe to 'hammer the rich' only means hammering those who already share a disproportionate tax burden - the 'middle-management class' - who are 'rich' only in terms of having slightly more than the average. The truly rich earn much and pay little and it will always be like that.

[planeterotica]

If anyone thinks that knocking Brown makes you right wing then just remember who he was sucking up to the other day and invited her round for dinner Maggie Thatcher one of the most right wing extremist in British Politics, Brown sucks !thumbsdown!

[Von Boy]

My sisters a nurse at a midlands hospital.....openned to great fan fair 4 years ago................on a 25 year lease.........just over 20 years until the lease is up for re newal.......- rent reviews, upward only every 5 years in between-...........and already talk is going round that the owners - the private company - have the NHS by the balls - pay us double the amount or get out !!!

Alot of problems for those in their early 40's to think about for when they get to 60 +

Good night and thank you NEW LABOUR!

[Trumpton]

Flat_Eric wrote:

> Fear not, chaps.
>
> Wazza will be along soon to explain to us how / why we have it
> all wrong and why Grim Gordon and NuLabour are in fact the
> answer to all our prayers !grin!.

Where is Wazzakins? I'm surprised he hasn't already jumped to the defence of Brown.

[Marblehead Johnson]

when you say "he should have seen this coming" - what exactly are you refering to?

[planeterotica]

Marblehead Johnson wrote:

> when you say "he should have seen this coming" - what exactly
> are you refering to?

planeterotica wrote:

Well its not hard to see what happens when there is to much easy credit around as it as happened before the bubble always burst, Brown should have seen this coming and made credit harder to get maybe the Northern Rock episode will act as a wake up call for him but i doubt it because he is to fucking stupid !thumbsdown!

[Marblehead Johnson]

ok - how is he supposed to make getting credit harder?

The traditional method is to raise interest rates - that is now the responsibility of the Bank of England and they've been raising the base rate for months.

Maybe a "correction" in the housing market, perhaps?

[planeterotica]

Marblehead Johnson wrote:

>
> ok - how is he supposed to make getting credit harder?
>
> The traditional method is to raise interest rates - that is now
> the responsibility of the Bank of England and they've been
> raising the base rate for months.
>
> Maybe a "correction" in the housing market, perhaps?

planeterotica wrote:
>
They introduced credit controls in the 1960s Maggie abolished them when she came to power and we went from boom to bust, the goverment still have an influence over the Bank of England and Gordon Brown when he was chancellor and now P.M. has a big say in who sits on the commitee who decide the interest rates therefore the goverment still has a big influence on interest rates, it is obvious that rates were to low for to long allowing people to borrow to much you dont need to go to University to see that !cool!

[Marblehead Johnson]

It's not just low interest rates - people have also been raising greater sums of money against the rising equity in their properties for various reasons but mostly to finance their lifestyles (seeing how in Northern Rock's case we are talking about secured borrowing)